Slightly slow t60....

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Slightly slow t60....

#1 Post by zahir » Thu May 03, 2007 11:56 am

Picked up my t60 2 hrs ago. Loving it, amazing form factor! Well I did the usual things to it but for some reason the laptop isn't BLAZING-ly fast. I mean it should be....

its a core2 duo 2ghz, 2 gb (1x2) ram but it takes longer than my desktop to load windows, say abt 45-60 seconds.... also i noticed a xxxt load of thinkpad items in the startup items. I can tell wat is wat on a regular laptop but on the t60, there are so many things i dont know abt....

Make my comp fly pls :) looking forward to your comments....
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#2 Post by bontistic » Thu May 03, 2007 12:10 pm

You can uninstall some of the software that you may not need. There is already a guide on that, let me see if I can find it, or someone knows where it is.

You can also perform a factory recovery using base software installation (I think), anyway, this will allow you to select which software to install or not to install during the factory recovery.
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#3 Post by zahir » Thu May 03, 2007 12:15 pm

Yeah there are a couple of analog core services by Lenovo, i dont know wat they do....!

Any reason why xp takes so long to boot up?!
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#4 Post by bontistic » Thu May 03, 2007 12:22 pm

Most members blame it on the software installed. And I believe this is true. In my R52 for example. It takes about 5 minutes to load because of all the Lenovo software and other installed applications. During the time XP was still new, a friend of mine suggested editing some XP startup files that I did not bother doing.

At your T60's specifications, I can't see a reason why it will load. But if you are comparing it to a desktop, I believe the desktop machine will win hands down given similar specs.
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#5 Post by zahir » Thu May 03, 2007 1:08 pm

does diskkeeper make a difference? doesnt System tools > Disk Defrag do the same thing?

Can i uninstall diskeeper? whn windows loads it lags till disk keeper comes on, once it finishes loading diskeeper, everything else is quick....
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#6 Post by bontistic » Thu May 03, 2007 1:18 pm

Found the thread, please see this link for optimization tips.

Yes it will do the same thing as the native tool. One difference though is the automatic option which lets defragmentation run in the background allowing you to optimize your drive as you work. Uninstalling this is alright if you can live without that feature.
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Re: Slightly slow t60....

#7 Post by madcow » Thu May 03, 2007 1:29 pm

zahir wrote:Picked up my t60 2 hrs ago. Loving it, amazing form factor! Well I did the usual things to it but for some reason the laptop isn't BLAZING-ly fast. I mean it should be....

its a core2 duo 2ghz, 2 gb (1x2) ram but it takes longer than my desktop to load windows, say abt 45-60 seconds.... also i noticed a [censored] load of thinkpad items in the startup items. I can tell wat is wat on a regular laptop but on the t60, there are so many things i dont know abt....

Make my comp fly pls :) looking forward to your comments....
I did a clean install of Windows XP. Then reinstall the hardware driver. It is a lot faster now.

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#8 Post by zahir » Thu May 03, 2007 1:51 pm

yeah my celeron which came with linux had a fresh install of xp and that booted faster. Dont think im whining here, once all loaded up the laptops pretty fast.... i dont think laptop manufacturers realize this, though done with noble thot, a lot of these preloaded programs meant to better your experience actually slow down your system... so you have a situation of a standard but fast system vs a slow but more of a 'better user experience' system if that makes any sense.....

now that my 2cents of philosophy are over, anything else i can get rid of? hehehhe
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#9 Post by gator » Thu May 03, 2007 1:52 pm

Uninstall Client Security solution, and it will speed up your boot a LOT.
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#10 Post by zahir » Thu May 03, 2007 3:06 pm

really? but isn't it good to have a security software? i run a web branding firm, we work for a lotta firms like skumars, reid and taylor, jockey (yes the underwear!) so we have a lot of proposals and contracts on our machines, i was gonna start figuring out how to use the css infact so that i can protect such documents with a password to the directory maybe....
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#11 Post by gator » Thu May 03, 2007 3:33 pm

Zahir, I suggest you read up on what CSS can and cannot do, and decide whether you need it or not. IMHO, it is more of a resource hog, and people have had lot of trouble with version 7. My T60 boots up in less than 30 seconds without CSS - I never really need CSS anyway.
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#12 Post by zahir » Thu May 03, 2007 3:59 pm

I did look into it a little, apparently it has control of boot passwords too... i just wanted to know, if i do uninstall it, is it freely downloadable for thinkpad machines....? just incase i want it back
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#13 Post by gator » Thu May 03, 2007 4:18 pm

Yes, you can install it anytimes (and any number of times ) for your T60. It should be available on the T60 downloads page.
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#14 Post by sb37 » Thu May 03, 2007 5:47 pm

if i remove css, can i still log into Windows with fingerprint?
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#15 Post by ryengineer » Thu May 03, 2007 5:48 pm

sb37 wrote:if i remove css, can i still log into Windows with fingerprint?
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#16 Post by Kyocera » Thu May 03, 2007 5:56 pm

If I may, use the machine for a while, wait and see what you need and absolutely don't need then remove it.

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#17 Post by dandrop » Thu May 03, 2007 6:18 pm

bontistic wrote:Found the thread, please see this link for optimization tips.

Yes it will do the same thing as the native tool. One difference though is the automatic option which lets defragmentation run in the background allowing you to optimize your drive as you work. Uninstalling this is alright if you can live without that feature.
Thanks for the link. Been searching for 'optimization' tips since i got my T60p a couple of days ago.

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#18 Post by zahir » Thu May 03, 2007 9:23 pm

yep.... once the pc has been started, its really fast.... only the start up is slow.... like 1.30-40 seconds.... that to me is SLOW! so im just considering what i should do
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#19 Post by Vali » Fri May 04, 2007 1:23 am

Your HDD is the 80GB one, these HDDs as far as I remember are 5400 rpm. The HDDs in desktops nowadays are 7200 rpm or higher, also the HDD cache is slightly larger.

Is it possible that a 33.33% increase in rpm can short the boot time?

I think so.

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#20 Post by zahir » Fri May 04, 2007 5:06 am

yeah i think ur right vali.... but none the less, you have to agree that a clean install without a lot of the ibm stuff would make the laptop a lot faster...
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#21 Post by zahir » Sat May 05, 2007 11:58 am

uninstalled css but it still takes a 1 m 30 secs....:(
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#22 Post by ryengineer » Sat May 05, 2007 10:30 pm

zahir wrote:uninstalled css but it still takes a 1 m 30 secs....:(
That's not bad. I never timed mine, however.

But If you're unhappy with your startup you might think about installing Windows again from the scratch.
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#23 Post by nandaiyo » Sat May 05, 2007 11:55 pm

I had quite an adventure trying to speed up my T60p in Vista and XP. I tried a clean install of Vista after the factory version was bogging down (day 2), then tried XP, then went back to another install of Vista off the R&R partition.

Long story short, here are a few tips to try under Vista:

1) Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> Uninstall lots of Lenovo/Thinkvantage programs. The only ones I kept were:
- System update
- Rescue & Recovery 4
- EasyEject Utility
- Presentation Manager
- Power Manager
- Fingerprint Software (Not CSS)
- Active Protection System
- Ultranav Driver / Utility

2) Uninstalled Client Security System. Turned off the encryption/security chip in BIOS. For some reason, this bogged down my system (lots of Not-Responding windows) especially when running heavy apps like Photoshop & Dreamweaver.

3) ran MSCONFIG to see what startup items are being called, and after disabling them, ran MSCONFIG CLEANUP (freeware prog) to keep them from loading at startup. LOTS of bloat programs being loaded at startup = my computer whirling after I log in with no ability to do anything but wait.

4) Ran CCLEANER (freeware) which cleaned up the registry after I removed a lot of apps.

5) Turned off Aero and stuck with a Windows Classic theme.

6) Turn off .xml indexing (which has helped a lot of people from having vista indexing all the time. Control Panel -> Indexing Options -> Advanced -> File Types -> uncheck .xml

7) Control Panel -> Backup & Restore -> Create a Restore point or change settings -> uncheck all drives under Automatic restore.

8) computer -> right-click on main Hard drive -> Properties -> Disk Cleanup -> Erase as much as you can.

9) Defrag the drive with PerfectDisk.

Beyond this, and depending how much you want to dive into the nitty-gritty, you can also turn off selective services that run in the background. But those are user-specific.

Good luck
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