T61P INFORMATION -15.4 WUXGA 1080p

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T61P INFORMATION -15.4 WUXGA 1080p

#1 Post by hka » Fri May 18, 2007 10:51 am

I spoke with a certified IBM\LENOVO Thinkpad Partner in Gernany in order to have info about the forthcoming T61p. The said me, in Europe t61p will be available at the end of June... They also give me an official info about the first model that they are certified to sell in Europe. The link is http://t60p.de/thinkpad_t61p.html The good news are the following:
- 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200)
- NVIDIA nVidia Quadro FX 570M (DIRECT X10)
- Possible the new HD drive of hitachi....7k200 (The salesman told me that over the phone).

Lenovo seems to continue the legend of T series p models...
T series forever...t60P 7600 2GB v5250... 100MB-7200...

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#2 Post by bin.dong » Fri May 18, 2007 11:41 am

If the new 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200) panel is better than the old 15" 4:3. I think I am gonna get one.
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#3 Post by Nilonym » Fri May 18, 2007 11:43 am

I'm starting to suspect that the T61p will be available only in 15"+ sizes. I'm holding out for a 14" T61p, but none of the leaked information seems to support its existence.
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#4 Post by gator » Fri May 18, 2007 11:45 am

A 14" T61p is coming in May end/June beginning.
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#5 Post by ryengineer » Fri May 18, 2007 11:47 am

gator wrote:A 14" T61p is coming in May end/June beginning.
Great. Would it have a higher gpu and camera features?
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#6 Post by npish » Fri May 18, 2007 1:06 pm

bin.dong wrote:If the new 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200) panel is better than the old 15" 4:3. I think I am gonna get one.
probably won't be IPS, though

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#7 Post by gator » Fri May 18, 2007 1:22 pm

ryengineer wrote: Great. Would it have a higher gpu and camera features?
AFAIK, you will have two options for GPU, a 128 MB card and a 256 MB one. I don't know about an 512 MB card option. A camera will be available on select models. And if I am not wrong, we will see a WSXGA+ option, but nothing higher than that on 14".
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#8 Post by Bigben » Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm

gator wrote:
ryengineer wrote: Great. Would it have a higher gpu and camera features?
AFAIK, you will have two options for GPU, a 128 MB card and a 256 MB one. I don't know about an 512 MB card option. A camera will be available on select models. And if I am not wrong, we will see a WSXGA+ option, but nothing higher than that on 14".
That sounds like the ideal laptop for me... I can't wait!

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#9 Post by Nilonym » Sat May 19, 2007 1:30 am

Bigben wrote:That sounds like the ideal laptop for me... I can't wait!
Same here. 14" WSXGA+ w/256 MB discrete graphics sounds like a winner.

Thanks for the info, gator. Sure wish I knew your source... :wink:
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Re: T61P INFORMATION -15.4 WUXGA 1080p

#10 Post by pianowizard » Sat May 19, 2007 7:39 am

hka wrote:The good news are the following:
- 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200)
- NVIDIA nVidia Quadro FX 570M (DIRECT X10)
- Possible the new HD drive of hitachi....7k200 (The salesman told me that over the phone)...
Does anyone know how heavy this T61p will be?
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#11 Post by Paul386 » Sat May 19, 2007 8:23 pm

This looks like a winner for me!

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#12 Post by smartins » Wed May 23, 2007 11:45 am

Anyone used a 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200) screen before?

I would love to have more screen estate but I'm afraid that the 1920x1200 resolution might be just to small for the screen size.

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#13 Post by pianowizard » Wed May 23, 2007 11:48 am

smartins wrote:Anyone used a 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200) screen before?
All the time, almost everyday at work. I love it, but most people would find things too small. I strongly recommend you to see one in person before ordering one.
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Doesn't changing the DPI settings make things bigger

#14 Post by atekant » Wed May 23, 2007 12:11 pm

In the display settings, there is a way to change the DPI for the display used. Don't have a high DPI display, so I don't know how well it works.
Supposed to work better in Vista than XP too, but I dunno.

Can you check that and see if it makes things bigger on the 15.4 19x12 screen?


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#15 Post by Ache » Wed May 23, 2007 12:22 pm

The WUXGA question is working hard. I wonder if the T61p could be built with either a WUXGA or a WSXGA+ screen according to the orderer's preference.

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#16 Post by neednotebook » Wed May 23, 2007 12:40 pm

end of june is toooooooooooooo late :(

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#17 Post by Paul386 » Wed May 23, 2007 2:30 pm

pianowizard wrote:
smartins wrote:Anyone used a 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200) screen before?
All the time, almost everyday at work. I love it, but most people would find things too small. I strongly recommend you to see one in person before ordering one.
Well, if you order a WUXGA and decide it is too small, you can use the screen in WSXGA+.... You are just out the extra you paid for the WUXGA...

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#18 Post by pianowizard » Wed May 23, 2007 2:58 pm

Paul386 wrote:.... You are just out the extra you paid for the WUXGA...
...and you will be stuck with fuzzy graphics. Windows Vista is supposed to minimize the fuzziness caused by non-native resolutions, but it's still not as good as viewing things at the native res.
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#19 Post by CrunchDude » Wed May 23, 2007 3:29 pm

What is the MAIN difference between a non-p and a p model? I've had both, and the p model always had UXGA graphics, but not my current one, and not nnecessarily a 7k2 HD, or even a Fingerprint reader??? :?:
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#20 Post by ryengineer » Wed May 23, 2007 5:33 pm

CrunchDude wrote:What is the MAIN difference between a non-p and a p model? I've had both, and the p model always had UXGA graphics, but not my current one, and not nnecessarily a 7k2 HD, or even a Fingerprint reader??? :?:
T60p has the newer FireGL gpu chipset and T60 the older ATI's either X1300 , X1400 or Intel's 950.
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#21 Post by barrywohl » Thu May 24, 2007 8:22 am

smartins wrote:Anyone used a 15.4 WUXGA (1920x1200) screen before?

I would love to have more screen estate but I'm afraid that the 1920x1200 resolution might be just to small for the screen size.
I had a Z61p with the WUXGA non-IPS 1920x1200 screen. Side by side with a 1600x1200 IPS (R50p 1832-22U), you could see the IPS was brighter with a better viewing angle. Without the side by side comparison, I was happy with the WUXGA non-IPS screen. I use 1200 vertical resolution in work and love it. Others who work with me on the same software don't like it.

I returned the Z61p for other reasons and I am ready to order a T61p or R61p with WUXGA and 7K200 hard drive as soon and Lenovo offers one. I don't think the R series will get the WUXGA screen but it might.

Getting something lighter than the Z61p will be an advantage for me also.
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#22 Post by Ache » Fri May 25, 2007 9:42 pm

To show significant ratios and data about screen's configurations :

TFT-table

TFT-dpi

TFT-surface-dots

TFT-surface-cm²

From.

So for instance, to get an idea of how small is the typo on a WUXGA 15.4", which is 147dpi, one can try (in a store) the Sony T series 10.6" WXGA, which is 141dpi. Also consider the distance to the screen and the workspace size.
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#23 Post by knight_vincent » Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:26 am

But,the key point is that when can I get it .

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#24 Post by pianowizard » Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:43 am

In the second-to-the-last chart, QXGA shoots through the roof! And as soon as the parts I ordered from Bontistic arrive, I will install QXGA on my R50p!
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#25 Post by Proteus » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:03 am

Bontastic,
You should take a good look at the QXGA screen on the R50p before jumping in. Yes, the resolution is amazing. However, note that it is NOT the standard thinkpad antiglare screen. Its a "mid-glossy" screen, with considerable reflection. However, its also a fairly dim screen, so you get the worst of both worlds. And...refresh is slow, with a good amount of ghosting. Awesome for static image editing..less so for video. Vista scalable fonts look very nice on it. Be careful and make sure you have the right video onboard your R50p..for some reason, a number of them went out the door with the craptastic Radeon 9600 64mb, vs the FireGL T2 128mb


Just a fair warning.
And for those of you who have never heard of QXGA, this was a special bid option ONLY for the R50p. 2048x1536 resolution, 4:3.

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#26 Post by Ache » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:53 am

QXGA on the 15" Nec VersaPro. Hum.

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#27 Post by pianowizard » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:17 am

Proteus wrote:Just a fair warning.
Thanks. I've done all the research.
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#28 Post by joepublic » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:48 am

gator wrote:A 14" T61p is coming in May end/June beginning.
I dunno, it's not seeming like 14" standard screens are coming at all. Read Matt's latest blog post, he didn't say anything specifically but I'm getting the impression they won't be available.

http://www.lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=83

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#29 Post by sb37 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:09 am

standard 14" t61s are definitely coming. there are several pictures of them floating around, if you look around the forum you can find some.
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#30 Post by knight_vincent » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:28 pm

But, when we get it in the U.S.A?

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