Which X3x gets the longest battery life?

X2/X3/X4x series specific matters only
Post Reply
Message
Author
asiafish
thinkpads.com customer
thinkpads.com customer
Posts: 1724
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:38 pm
Location: Bakersfield, CA

Which X3x gets the longest battery life?

#1 Post by asiafish » Sat May 19, 2007 12:25 pm

I currently have an X30, and was wondering if the X31 or X32 can run longer or shorter on a charge. X30's performance is mostly adequate, but its video card isn't up to the challenge of watching downloaded TV shows on iTunes, which the X32 (and presumably X31 which has the same video card) does fine. I would move to an X31 if battery life doesn't suffer from the X30, but as it is not my primary computer, I'd prefer to keep the X30 if it runs longer on a charge.

My best with the X30 is a hair under 6 hours on the main cell.
"An atheist is just somebody who feels about Yahweh the way any decent Christian feels about Thor or Baal or the golden calf. As has been said before, we are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

Richard Dawkins, 2002

billp117
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 945
Joined: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:19 pm
Location: Kirkland, WA

#2 Post by billp117 » Sat May 19, 2007 11:31 pm

The X30 has great battery life...you will be happy with the unit. It does most everything and is very reliable.

Six hours would be best for me with a new battery. I can get three hours from a five year old battery with almost 200 cycles.
Billp117, Kirkland, WA

T410-SSD, X200, X100e, 2-T61, T60, 3-T43, T43p, TR451, X41t, X21, 701c

tomh009
Moderator Emeritus
Moderator Emeritus
Posts: 3021
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:30 pm
Location: Kitchener, ON

#3 Post by tomh009 » Sun May 20, 2007 9:31 am

The X31 tends to be a little better than the X32 on battery life, but six hours might still be tough. My undervolted X31 can do between three and four hours depending on usage -- but my battery is up to 801 cycles now, so that doesn't help.
X220 (4287-2W5, Windows 8 Pro) / X31 (2672-CXU, XP Pro) / X61s (7668-CTO, Windows 8 Pro)

asiafish
thinkpads.com customer
thinkpads.com customer
Posts: 1724
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:38 pm
Location: Bakersfield, CA

#4 Post by asiafish » Sun May 20, 2007 10:55 am

The question though is whether the X31 can outlast the X30, assuming the same aggressive power management and the same brand-new battery.
"An atheist is just somebody who feels about Yahweh the way any decent Christian feels about Thor or Baal or the golden calf. As has been said before, we are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

Richard Dawkins, 2002

tomh009
Moderator Emeritus
Moderator Emeritus
Posts: 3021
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:30 pm
Location: Kitchener, ON

#5 Post by tomh009 » Sun May 20, 2007 5:35 pm

Alas, I don't know anyone who has done an actual direct comparison test.
X220 (4287-2W5, Windows 8 Pro) / X31 (2672-CXU, XP Pro) / X61s (7668-CTO, Windows 8 Pro)

pianowizard
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 8367
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Contact:

#6 Post by pianowizard » Sun May 20, 2007 6:12 pm

According to the Tawbook and Ltwbook, the X30 gets the least whereas the X31 and X32 are similar.
Microsoft Surface 3 (Atom x7-Z8700 / 4GB / 128GB / LTE)
Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (Core i3-3220 / 8GB / 8TB); HP 8300 Elite minitower (Core i7-3770 / 16GB / 9.25TB)
Acer T272HUL; Crossover 404K; Dell 3008WFP, U2715H, U2711, P2416D; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP

ragefury32
Sophomore Member
Posts: 149
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:16 am
Location: New York, NY
Contact:

#7 Post by ragefury32 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:34 pm

Assuming new/low cycle count cell and NHC usage? I'll say the X31.

The Dothan in the X32 is slightly more power hungry, and the Speedstep in the X30 does not step down low enough.

That being said, the Dothan is also slightly better performance/watt-wise due to more aggressive cache management, a slightly better floating point unit, and more cache capacity.
Proxima - X31 (2672-C2U)
Pegasus - X31 (2672-CXU)
Taurus - X24 (2662-MQU)
Nova - X41 Tablet (1869-CSU)

RageRover
Posts: 32
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:57 pm

I'm very happy with my X30

#8 Post by RageRover » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:58 pm

I just bought a new battery (generic off eBay). I get over 5.5 hours on my X30 using NHS. Since my battery is new, I have yet to test it to the max, but I am sure I can get closer and possibly over 6 hours.

I did wish I can undervolt the CPU a bit more, it only steps down to 800mhz. Only when the battery is close to being drained does it then jump down to ~490 mhz.

I installed an Atheros abg card (yes, I had to use the no-1802 hack).

I purchased a new 17" HP not too long ago....I have no used it in months! I let my gf have it. I do everything on my X30.

I'm a student, so most of my day is spent using office, itunes and Mozilla or Opera. But I download and watch my fair share of Divx/Xvid/AVI. I honestly don't think an X31 would be any difference performance wise.

The only thing I wish the X30 had was USB 2.0. But for $8 (off eBay) i purchased a USB 2.0 PCMCIA card, so problem solved. I also use firewire a lot.

asiafish
thinkpads.com customer
thinkpads.com customer
Posts: 1724
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:38 pm
Location: Bakersfield, CA

Re: I'm very happy with my X30

#9 Post by asiafish » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:41 pm

RageRover wrote:I just bought a new battery (generic off eBay). I get over 5.5 hours on my X30 using NHS. Since my battery is new, I have yet to test it to the max, but I am sure I can get closer and possibly over 6 hours.

I did wish I can undervolt the CPU a bit more, it only steps down to 800mhz. Only when the battery is close to being drained does it then jump down to ~490 mhz.

I installed an Atheros abg card (yes, I had to use the no-1802 hack).

I purchased a new 17" HP not too long ago....I have no used it in months! I let my gf have it. I do everything on my X30.

I'm a student, so most of my day is spent using office, itunes and Mozilla or Opera. But I download and watch my fair share of Divx/Xvid/AVI. I honestly don't think an X31 would be any difference performance wise.

The only thing I wish the X30 had was USB 2.0. But for $8 (off eBay) i purchased a USB 2.0 PCMCIA card, so problem solved. I also use firewire a lot.
X31 or X32 have much better video, but otherwise I concur on the overall system performance. I have an X31 and my daughter an X30, and for most tasks they are indistinguishable.

I get around the lack of USB2 on the X30 by using a combo USB2/FireWire enclosure for my external drive (the only speed-dependent USB device I own), and actually find that while the rated speed is a bit slower, FireWire is actually a lot faster for sustained transfers.
"An atheist is just somebody who feels about Yahweh the way any decent Christian feels about Thor or Baal or the golden calf. As has been said before, we are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

Richard Dawkins, 2002

meshua
Freshman Member
Posts: 81
Joined: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:12 am
Location: San Francisco, CA

#10 Post by meshua » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:42 am

Hi,

the lack of USB2 isn't really an issue since I only use it for USB Sticks. And those sticks can't perform same as harddisks...so I really don't care about that fact. Another story is about CD/DVD drives. I'm the lucky one owning a external drive that comes w/ both USB2+IEEE1394. Only while installing something out of Windows (like OS installation) I suffer a bit. Under Windows I use X30's FireWire connectivity to hook up my external NEC DVD burner...and it runs like charm.
Video card is not the fastest but fine for office+web. Only when you scroll on some web sites the X30 gets stuck a bit due to processor usage of almost 100%. However the battery performs awesome. That's why I'll stick with my X30 for the next months as my secondary notebook (primary is a T60) for traveling and every day office use ;)

Brgds, Torsten

tomh009
Moderator Emeritus
Moderator Emeritus
Posts: 3021
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:30 pm
Location: Kitchener, ON

#11 Post by tomh009 » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:22 am

meshua wrote:the lack of USB2 isn't really an issue since I only use it for USB Sticks. And those sticks can't perform same as harddisks...
Memory sticks are generally capable of speeds in the range of 5 MB/s, three or four times as fast as USB 1.1. That said, you may be moving only small amounts of data so that speed may well be acceptable to you.

I agree on the Firewire solution for external disks and optical drives, though it's a bit harder to find those.
X220 (4287-2W5, Windows 8 Pro) / X31 (2672-CXU, XP Pro) / X61s (7668-CTO, Windows 8 Pro)

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “ThinkPad X2/X3/X4x Series incl. X41 Tablet”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests