6hour battery Mod for 770X made of old crap. *PICS*

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6hour battery Mod for 770X made of old crap. *PICS*

#1 Post by junglemike » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:40 pm

Once I discovered to my astonishment that that old dude 770 has a 1280x1024 screen, i decided to fix it and make it usable laptop. I put max a total 320mb ram, tried two sticks of 256, but it would complain. Cd-rom was broken, but I don’t need cd-rom anyways – so I removed it. Now about the battery. Battery was completely dead and impossible to revive, I tried and didn’t succeed, despite that I have some experience with li-ion batteries. So I just took some old li-ion cells from various dead laptops, and assembled a 770 battery.
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Battery holds for 15mins, and 50mins , If I disable all battery warnings and shutdown.
Old batteries don’t hold very long NOT because they have lost most of their capacity, but rather because they have increased internal resistance. As a result, battery indicator reaches 0% very quickly, sometimes after 10-15 mins. But at this moment battery isn’t even half empty. You may disable all warning, and you may discover that this battery can sometimes run the laptop for another hour or more after 0%.
In these cases it helps to connect batteries in parallel. I will give you an example, Say you have battery A and B both hold only 15 minutes. Now If I connect them in parallel, you may think that this double battery would hold for 30min, but no, It will probably work 1-2 hours easy. The load on each cell is twice smaller, thus voltage is much higher given the increased internal resistance in old cells.
Now I have another old laptop. Really old. More than 10 years old. It also has li-ion battery (5.4Ah), which uses very large rare cells. In 95% of laptop batteries there are standard 18650 cells (from right). And those huge cells (from left) are 2.6Ah - or at least they were 2.6Ah 10 years ago. Now they are also half dead.
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These cells are too big to put them in place of cd-rom. I had to cut out the aluminium cover over the cd-rom. This is how it looks in it’ original condition:
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After cutting out the aluminium:
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I soldered 4 wired to the original battery to connect to auxiliary battery:
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Now I put the auxiliary batteries in the made free space. I also had to cut out a small area over the original battery to pass the wires.:

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BTW, If I had to put there regular li-ion cells, I would probably be able to stuff there some 10-15 cells easy. Since there is lot of free space.
Everything is soldered together and taped with isolation tape:

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Final View:
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Testing conditions: medium brightness, disable lcd and hdd auto shut off, disable all battery warnings, disable stand-by and hibernate. I also put a Xvid movie for never-ending loop. So it would play video non-stop. This requires approximately 50% of cpu usage.
After full charge battery lasted for full 6 hours. .By the way, in the first 2.5 hours percentage went down from 100% to 0%. Rest 3.5 hours it was constant 0%.
Nice, don’t you say? If all those batteries were 100% brand new instead of old dead crap, this would give me 10.8Ah total.
I measured the consumption current ant it's slightly over 1A (for this specific test condition of course). So I assume this battery could give 10hours easy (and some 15 hours with low brightness/office use)

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#2 Post by gator » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:35 pm

Whoa! No words ... :bow: what a mod!
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#3 Post by ryengineer » Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:01 pm

Brilliant!!!!! :thumbs-UP:
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#4 Post by dsigma6 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:04 am

Holy Toledo. I only wish I had something intelligent to add.
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#5 Post by pianowizard » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:08 am

That's realy impressive, junglemike. It's always gratifying to revive an old machine.
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#6 Post by junglemike » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:42 am

Thanks guys, I wish I could put a brilliant 1280x1024 screen from tis 770x to my T21. I tried it, the data cable plug is the same - but it wouldn't work :-) . This is despite that I know there are T2x ibm's with 1280 screen.
So b/c i LOVE this screen I'm stuck with this machine till the end of my days :-).
I've put there very fast and optimized software so it actually works almost like new computer (Tcpmp for divx/xvid movies, Foxit Reader for pdf's .
Next step - I'm planning to put <INSIDE> this laptop a wifi+BT adapters same way i did it with T21 Here[/url]
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#7 Post by dsigma6 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:21 am

I've been using TCPMP on my smartphone and PPC, but didn't know there was a PC version. Excellent free program.
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#8 Post by unrortit » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:47 am

your a legend!
man thats some juicy fat cells
from my observations with similar but oppsite (6 to 3 cell lightweight module conversions,i found its best to ensure all batterys are discharged to about 3.2 volts then equalised in order to get more accurate readings.Sometimes swapping the cells from within the battery pack gives better life too,which +why i don't know.
what i do know is that if you repeatingly slow discharge in windows
by means of powingoff hdd,mute volume,disable background programs,turn off screensavers,shut down the screen,then
let it drain completely till it dies then recharge in windows,repeating the procedure several times (avoiding excess heat between discharge and recharge process)the battery will last longer and in some cases
eeprom memory align more with reality.
i got a 3 year old t40 battery going 8.15hours in windows with screen,hdd off,betya your one will go much more in similar circumstances. if the 770 accepts p111 cpu it will run a speedstep
cpu @ 1.3volt,(with cpumsr to silent load cache in windows) which i found usses less watts than centrino banias
on its low speed settings. seems damm faster too!mghz for mghz :wink:
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#9 Post by Kyocera » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:09 am

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