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Rescue and Recovery v2.00.0170

#1 Post by Zeitgeist » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:34 am

A new version is online:

http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-57264

The readme file is very poor, has anybody an idea what are the improvements?
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#2 Post by kano » Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:17 pm

Does anyone have any ideas on whether IBM Rescue and Recovery v2.00.0170 or Rapid Restore Ultra 4 is better?
Thanks for your help.

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#3 Post by eriqesque » Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:34 pm

Not sure of the differences
but I am affraid to install it. I like the way the X40 does it as opposed to my previous T40.
On the X40 its in the HPA and the OS does not see it and it stays away from my defragmenting tool. But on my T40 it simply installed and the defragmenting tool went bonkers with it, saying my disk was heavily fragmented cause it cannot be defraged. So I think I will wait and see.
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#4 Post by ashleys » Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:43 am

Hope to install Rescue & Recovery V2 at the weekend.

Note : V1 R&R incorporated Rapid Restore Ultra 4.0. Personally I've only ever used R&R so can't comment on what Rapid Restore on it's own was like.

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#5 Post by mrbjr » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:35 am

I don't use Norton, so I guess i'll not need to consider it..
At least hope they got the defrag issue worked out though. Tried the older version on my T41p and had the defrag problem and never any answers as to why, so did a factory restore.

Consideration 7
The IBM Rescue and Recovery program only supports Norton AntiVirus 2004
(or higher). If you have an IBM computer with Norton AntiVirus 2002 or
2003, then you are eligible for a free upgrade that can be obtained
directly from Symantec by visiting www.symantecstore.com/110005.
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#6 Post by ashleys » Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:23 am

R&R V2 update ...

Installed last night without a hitch.
Ran full backup, no problems.
Re-created rescue media and test booted into R&R, all OK.

First impressions,
Cosmetic changes to screens. Almost all mention of Rapid Restore has
been removed from screens etc (although I suspect it's still the same code underneath).
You can now manage your backups more easily, it has an option to delete selective backups.

The fragmentation problem is still there. My RRBackups folder is in it's own partition and that shows as totally fragmented following a backup. However, being in it's own partition means I can defrag my C: and D: partitions without any problem.

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#7 Post by Zeitgeist » Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:37 am

ashleys wrote:R&R V2 update ...

You can now manage your backups more easily, it has an option to delete selective backups.

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I updated as well without any problems, however, I didn't realise that it is now possible to delete selective backups. How can you do this?
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#8 Post by ashleys » Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:53 am

Don't have my TP to hand but I think on the first backup screen (you know the one with the pie chart) there's a button in the bottom left hand corner. This takes you to a list of backups saved in RRBackups.

I only ever took complete backups (no incrementals) so the previous way of unclicking the location of backup to get the prompt telling me I was to delete my backups was really clumsy. Now, I just select to delete the backup and it says it's the only one and do I wish to take another complete backup, which of course I do :D

Sorry if the description isn't too hot, trying to remember what I did last night :wink:

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#9 Post by Zeitgeist » Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:19 am

Thanks! Tonight I will check it.
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#10 Post by SCURaja » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:42 pm

so do people think is worth upgrading to rapid restore v2?

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#11 Post by ashleys » Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:32 pm

Can't see any reason not to.
Seems stable enough to me, biggest problem is getting the thing downloaded (almost 400Mb :shock: )

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#12 Post by mpcook » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:01 pm

I just downloaded and ran R&R 2.0. It looks to me to be identical to RRUltra 4.0, don't see any difference. But maybe there is some differences under the hood.

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#13 Post by mrbjr » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:52 pm

Can anyone confirm whether it will work without
using Norton AV. Check my earlier post.
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#14 Post by JHEM » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:08 pm

mrbjr wrote:Can anyone confirm whether it will work without
using Norton AV. Check my earlier post.
Thjere is no requirement to have Norton anything on your Thinkpad to use R&R, it's just that if you do have Norton AV installed you have to have the latest edition.

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#15 Post by mrbjr » Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:41 pm

James, thanks for the claification, even if I still don't know why it would matter at all :?
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#16 Post by JHEM » Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:47 pm

mrbjr wrote:James, thanks for the claification, even if I still don't know why it would matter at all :?
Apparently there's some incompatibility between R&R and some earlier versions of Norton AV.

So if you're running Norton AV 2002 or 2003, R&R requires an update to AV 2004.

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#17 Post by mrbjr » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:46 am

Got it! Thanks again
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#18 Post by monty cantsin » Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:23 pm

mpcook wrote:I just downloaded and ran R&R 2.0. It looks to me to be identical to RRUltra 4.0, don't see any difference.
When restoring backups, you're led through a new step-by-step process with R&R2.

Yet, what I regard as a significant improvement (in theory) is the following, however:

With the old R&R1, you only had the opportunity to either restore individual files or do a complete recovery. During such a complete recovery, everything on the destination was deleted during the recovery process, your personal files included. The only way to keep them was to allow R&R to save all files that would be deleted during the recovery process to another drive beforehand. With the new R&R2, you have now the option to leave your personal files intact and only restore Windows and the bulk of software that is installed on your machine. I haven't tried this myself yet, so the question is how well this works in practice.
mpcook wrote:But maybe there is some differences under the hood.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the "Rescue and Recovery Workspace" was formerly based on W2K, while it is now Windows XP.

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