Diskeeper vs Windows Defragmenter

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seattleike · #1 Post by **seattleike** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:42 pm

My T61p cam with diskeeper lite instead of the normal XP defragmneter tool. Does anyone know if it is as good? How do I get the normal windows one?

Tholek · #2 Post by **Tholek** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:54 pm

Diskeeper is supposedly the best, but I don't know about the "Lite" version.

#3 Post by **gator** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:17 pm

Tholek wrote:Diskeeper is supposedly the best, but I don't know about the "Lite" version.

Many people (including me) here prefer using Raxco PerfectDisk. I got it cheap when they had a sale last year ...

#4 Post by **jdhurst** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:21 pm

Diskeeper Lite is a poor substitute for Diskeeper Paid in my opinion. I see it on new client computers and don't care for it. I use Perfect Disk and find it to be the best for my use and for use by my clients. ... JDH

SHoTTa35 · #5 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:46 pm

well are we talking about the Windows XP or Vista built in one. I find the Vista one to do a pretty good job (isn't it based off Diskeeper anyways?) I like the fact that i don't have to "do" it... it's automatic by default and takes care of my laptop nicely.

seattleike · #6 Post by **seattleike** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:52 pm

SHoTTa35 wrote:well are we talking about the Windows XP or Vista built in one. I find the Vista one to do a pretty good job (isn't it based off Diskeeper anyways?) I like the fact that i don't have to "do" it... it's automatic by default and takes care of my laptop nicely.

I am talking about the Windows XP Pro one.

#7 Post by **jdhurst** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:54 pm

Diskeeper Lite for XP is not automatic so far as I can see. Did I miss a setting? I don't know about Vista. Diskeeper Paid can be scheduled according to the upgrade documentation (again for XP). What I really like about Perfect Disk is it can be set to a schedule for restricted user machines. The built-in XP defragger needs to be run by an administrator and Diskeeper Lite cannot be scheduled.
... JDH

SHoTTa35 · #8 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:22 pm

no, i was talking about the Vista built in one. It's based off off Diskeeper i think... the XP one is based off one of those too but i forget which. The Vista built in defragmenter runs automatically once a week by default.

turnerpr · #9 Post by **turnerpr** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:30 pm

I deleted Diskeeper Lite because I preferred just to use the Windows defrag. I also use XP Pro and the defragmenter is under "accessories" and "system tools." My needs are modest so it works fine.

#10 Post by **tomh009** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:32 am

One of the nice things about PerfectDisk is that I can independently schedule a"normal" defrag, and then, every few days, a free space consolidation (that essentially defrags the free space). Without the free space consolidation, new files can end up being fragmented immediately.

agarny · #11 Post by **agarny** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:24 am

tomh009 wrote:One of the nice things about PerfectDisk is that I can independently schedule a"normal" defrag, and then, every few days, a free space consolidation (that essentially defrags the free space). Without the free space consolidation, new files can end up being fragmented immediately.

I didn't know PerfectDisk, so I thought I would give it a try, but first under VMWare, just to see how it behaves and stuff. I was pleased with it, so I then installed on my main system. I then started defragmenting and there was no problem at all, but then I had to leave, so I just closed PerfectDisk, assuming that it would shutdown properly, before my system shutdowns.

I am now at work and while starting my system, I couldn't help but notice that my screen resolution had gone back to 800x600 (instead of its usual 1600x1200). I was surprised, but wasn't too concerned about it until, once I logged in, I noticed that barely anything was working (some DLLs cannot be loaded and therefore some programs simply don't work or not to their full extent). I thought I would restart, just in case and, when doing so, Windows (Vista Business) spotted lots abnormalities which it tried to fix (e.g. orphaned files). I have now relogged in and it still the same!

I have the feeling that I will have to reinstall my system (not a big for me, since I am used to it, but I am at work for a reason and it is not to reinstall my system!).

Not impressed with PerfectDisk at all! I would have expected that program to properly behave upon closing/shutting down. Not professional at all!

#12 Post by **jdhurst** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:42 am

Something else is probably wrong. Windows comes with standard api's for defragging that are used by all the defragging tools I know about. I have shut down PD many times with no ill effect whatever. ... JDH

agarny · #13 Post by **agarny** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:48 am

jdhurst wrote:Something else is probably wrong. Windows comes with standard api's for defragging that are used by all the defragging tools I know about. I have shut down PD many times with no ill effect whatever. ... JDH

Well, I cannot see what else could have gone wrong to be honest. Before coming to work, all I did was to test PD under VMware (on my system) and then use it on my main system. I wasn't using anything else. Yet, shutting my system down and restarting it (at work) yielded a plethora of problems, which render my system barely useable... Before using PD, my system was working completely fine, no problem whatsoever.

seattleike · #14 Post by **seattleike** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:16 am

turnerpr wrote:I deleted Diskeeper Lite because I preferred just to use the Windows defrag. I also use XP Pro and the defragmenter is under "accessories" and "system tools." My needs are modest so it works fine.

If you deleted Deskeper Lite, how did you get the Windows XP Pro defrag tool? It seems like when lenovo shipped the machine they remove the XP one and replace it with Diskeeper Lite.

DranK · #15 Post by **DranK** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:23 am

How about Paragon Hard Disk Manager? I wanted to buy it, any comments on this one?

Thanks.

agarny · #16 Post by **agarny** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:01 pm

DranK wrote:How about Paragon Hard Disk Manager? I wanted to buy it, any comments on this one?

I don't know about Hard Disk Manager, but I have used their Partition Manager before and I have been very pleased with it.

XIII · #17 Post by **XIII** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:14 pm

seattleike wrote:
turnerpr wrote:I deleted Diskeeper Lite because I preferred just to use the Windows defrag. I also use XP Pro and the defragmenter is under "accessories" and "system tools." My needs are modest so it works fine.
If you deleted Deskeper Lite, how did you get the Windows XP Pro defrag tool? It seems like when lenovo shipped the machine they remove the XP one and replace it with Diskeeper Lite.

Rightclick My Computer, choose Manage, Disk Defragmenter is still there.

seattleike · #18 Post by **seattleike** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:48 pm

XIII wrote:
seattleike wrote: If you deleted Deskeper Lite, how did you get the Windows XP Pro defrag tool? It seems like when lenovo shipped the machine they remove the XP one and replace it with Diskeeper Lite.
Rightclick My Computer, choose Manage, Disk Defragmenter is still there.

I did this and under Storage there is Diskeeper Lite and Disk Management. I can't find disk defragmenter. Any ideas?

Shatt · #19 Post by **Shatt** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:51 pm

I wish Microsoft would fix their crap operating systems and file systems. Defrag wouldn't be needed. Maybe if they looked at what Unix and Linux systems have been doing for over 20 years, they might come out with a decent operating system.

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