T41p seemingly random reboot issues...

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T41p seemingly random reboot issues...

#1 Post by the.vert » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:44 am

I just got a second hand T41p and it seems to run fine until I get to the point of playing a game on it. then in about 2 minutes I get a distorted BSOD and a reboot. Is there anyway I can find out what the BSOD says? I'd like to find out what is going on with this machine. I have checked the event viewer and have found nothing that indicates a video card problem.

Any suggestions?

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#2 Post by ryengineer » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:24 am

Right Click My Computer>Properties>Advanced. Under Startup and Recovery press "Settings" then uncheck "Automatically restart" under "System failure".

You will be able to read the BSOD next time.
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#3 Post by Temetka » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:49 pm

Good piece of info to know, thanks.

I would guess that either you have the short fan or the GPU is not making proper contact with the HS.
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#4 Post by the.vert » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:17 pm

Oh what is this short fan? did they have two different sized heatsinks for them?

Incidentally I have a 2374-GGU if that makes any difference.

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#5 Post by agarza » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:35 pm

Yep, there's the short and the long heatsink version. You have a Dedicated Graphic Chip, you need the long fan so that when the GPU is working full steam the heat will be transferred through a heatpipe out to the heatsink exhaust. I also had that problem with my new T42p, unfortunately I've a noisy T43p heatsink replacement which is known to be more noisy than T41p/T42p heatsinks. You should remove the keyboard and find out if you have the long fan or altenatively run TPFanControl and see if your GPU temp rises above the 90C when gaming
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#6 Post by the.vert » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:34 pm

well I downloaded the HMM and got my phillips screwdriver dirty. Turns out that I apparently have a M10 version of the long HS and the lazy sod that installed it left the flippin plastic on it. I removed it and the existing ruined TIM and replaced it with Arctic Silver Ceramique, low and behold I can game for more than 2 minutes, I was up to an hour before I got bored :D

Life is good again :D

Thanks for the suggestions I thought the HS would have been properly installed but I guess if there is no gaming done on the system then you'd never know...

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#7 Post by Temetka » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:06 am

Glad you got it worked out. I have a spot for T41P (as evidenced by the machine in my sig) and I would hate to read about the death of one here.
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#8 Post by cmarti » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:09 am

the.vert wrote:Turns out that I apparently have a M10 version of the long HS and the lazy sod that installed it left the flippin plastic on it.
All the T40p, T41p and T42p come from factory with the "flippin thing" installed from factory maybe it's for insulation but i am sure about that.
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#9 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:51 am

the.vert wrote:Turns out that I apparently have a M10 version of the long HS and the lazy sod that installed it left the flippin plastic on it.
cmarti wrote:All the T40p, T41p and T42p come from factory with the "flippin thing" installed from factory maybe it's for insulation but i am sure about that.
I hope not :!:
ThinkPadT40/T40p,T41/T41p,T42/T42p: Hardware Maintenance Manual wrote:Only in the case of Fan assembly, long, you need to peel the plastic sheet b off on the thermal rubber before you place it on the system board. Fan assembly, long M10 DOES NOT have the plastic sheet.
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#10 Post by the.vert » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:02 pm

well whether I had the M10 or not doesn't matter there was a plastic bit in between the heatsink and the GPU. I took it off cleaned it up put some Ceramique on and I am happily playing any game I want now.

So thanks for pointing me in the heat issue :D I am now back to loving my thinkpad again

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#11 Post by Temetka » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:18 am

Good to know it was a simple fix to get you back up and running. It's also disturbing to know that the heatsink was not installed correctly at the factory.
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