New HDD & Memory. Will these work?

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New HDD & Memory. Will these work?

#1 Post by BoomAM » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:08 am

Hi.
With the low prices on memory and HDDs at the moment, im thinking of giving my Z60M an upgrade.
Ive got a few questions though:

Memory:
- Theres two 2Gb kits on the Crucial website, one is PC4200/Cas4, one is PC5300/CAS5.
- What speed/cas is the existing memory in my Z60M, and which of those two would you recommend?

HDD:
Im thinking of getting the 'Fujitsu 300GB MHX2300BT 5400RPM 2.5" SATA 8MB Cache HDD' from OCUK.
- Will the above HDD still function with the HDD shock detection or does it have to be specific HDDs?
- Will the above mentioned HDD have any heat/noise problems inside my Z60m?
- Will it be faster? As i cant find any concreate specs on the existing toshiba tk1032gsx HDD.

Thanks in advance all. :).

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#2 Post by ZaZ » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:53 am

Windows can only use a little over 3GB of memory.
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#3 Post by BoomAM » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:06 am

FredGarvin wrote:Windows can only use a little over 3GB of memory.
4Gb on 32bit versions;)
But what does that have to do with my question/s? :?

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#4 Post by warder » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:02 am

Not quite correct. Idealistically yes, but not realistically.

I think the person was trying to be helpful and save you some money... they have read this and thought you were looking at 2 x 2GB sticks:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us

Although the z60m only takes 2GB anyways, as I think you already know. I have PC2-4200, others use PC2-5300. Since the z60m will only work at PC2-4200 frequency when used, I didn't ever find out which is best. Personally I upgraded mine to PC2-4200 CAS4, as I don't know if, when you run the PC2-5300, whether it too runs with CAS4 too, as that is a lower latency and therefore better. The only benefit I see is if you get a cost saving with 5300, but if it doesn't run with Cas4, ironically it will be slower than the 5300 in the z60m.

Any 2.5" SATA drive will work fine. I have upgraded mine to the new Hybrid Samsung 160GB from NewEgg and it appears to work great. Much quieter than the original Toshiba. Silent.

Shock detection just parks the drive heads. Any drive.
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Re: New HDD & Memory. Will these work?

#5 Post by z/svc » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:09 am

BoomAM wrote:Hi.
HDD:
Im thinking of getting the 'Fujitsu 300GB MHX2300BT 5400RPM 2.5" SATA 8MB Cache HDD' from OCUK.
Be carefully, it is NOT 5400 RPM disk but 4200 what makes it SLOW. Very slow.

http://www.fujitsu.com/global/support/c ... 300bt.html
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#6 Post by jkahng » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:13 am

re: aps
- the aps system is a series of sensors that detects movements and shocks and parks the heads on the hdd to save it from malfunction. you should know that this protection extends to harddrives in the ultrabay.

re: memory
- both speeds should work fine.
- intel chip set limits the usable ram to abt 3gigs. even if you use a 64bit os. so basically, even if you get 2gigsX2 you'll end up with a little more than 3gigs.

re: new drive
- 5400 rpm drive with perpendicular technology seems to be a good balance of low noise / heat and performance, price.
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#7 Post by BoomAM » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:04 am

Might skip the HDD for now, and just get the memory.
jkahng, do you have any proof linking to this 3Gb thing you are on about, because ive never heard of anything of the like.

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#8 Post by jkahng » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:04 am

BoomAM wrote:Might skip the HDD for now, and just get the memory.
jkahng, do you have any proof linking to this 3Gb thing you are on about, because ive never heard of anything of the like.
re: memory
- i should have explained it better. intel chipsets upto the napa platform cannot address the full 4 gigs even if installed. (you end up with 3.1 or 3.2gigs). santa rosa has solved this problem. you will get the full gig if you use a 64bit OS.

this has been discussed here and elsewhere many many times.
here's a thread for you...

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... mory+limit
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#9 Post by jkahng » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:44 pm

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T400 2765-82u T9800 8gb ram, crucial M ssd, windows 7, Advanced mini dock

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#10 Post by warder » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:35 pm

BoomAM wrote:Might skip the HDD for now, and just get the memory.
jkahng, do you have any proof linking to this 3Gb thing you are on about, because ive never heard of anything of the like.
Strangely enough I linked to the horses mouth above... not sure why you'd want 'proof' from anything other than Microsoft...
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Does any 2.5 " sata drive work for a Z61m(9450-a36)

#11 Post by frshakl » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:10 pm

I am new to laptops. I want to by a hitachi 7200 rmp drive. I have been finding it difficult to confirm what drive works. Do I understand this thread correctly that any 2.5 " sata drive will work?

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#12 Post by tomh009 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:22 pm

Any 2.5" SATA drive will work in the Z series. Specifically the Hitachi 7K100 series (and the new 7K200 series) drives are very fast and quite popular with the readers of these forums. (I have a 7K100 in my X31, and will be getting a 7K200 for my soon-to-be X61.)

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#13 Post by BoomAM » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:06 am

tomh009 wrote:P.S. Welcome to the ThinkPads.com forums!
Thanks.
But ive been here since January. :p
warder wrote:Strangely enough I linked to the horses mouth above... not sure why you'd want 'proof' from anything other than Microsoft...
Didnt notice the other posts sorry. :p

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#14 Post by GomJabbar » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:25 am

BoomAM wrote:
tomh009 wrote:P.S. Welcome to the ThinkPads.com forums!
Thanks.
But ive been here since January. :p
tomh009 was responding to the post above his by frshakl (it was frshakl's first post). :P
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