In-Thread Picture Warnings - Why?

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cxls · #1 Post by **cxls** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:36 am

I'm just curious as to why there must be warnings in thread titles if there are to be pictures in threads.

#2 Post by **tomh009** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:51 am

That's simply the policy on these forums -- it's a courtesy to those users on low-speed connections.

#3 Post by **ryengineer** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:38 pm

Also it gives a heads up to those fellow members accessing this forum from workplace. Pictures can get illusive sometimes...

frankiepankie · #4 Post by **frankiepankie** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:11 pm

ryengineer wrote:Also it gives a heads up to those fellow members accessing this forum from workplace. Pictures can get illusive sometimes...

Maybe it is handy to use the tags:
NSFW (Not Safe For Work)
SFW (Safe For Work)

In your topictitle

?

skitty4gzus · #5 Post by **skitty4gzus** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:47 pm

it also gives a heads up to foks surfing from pda's or other portable browsers because at their connection it would really be slow loading.

#6 Post by **JaneL** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:10 pm

frankiepankie wrote:Maybe it is handy to use the tags:
NSFW (Not Safe For Work)
SFW (Safe For Work)

In your topictitle ?

Even better - follow the Rules of the Road, and don't post anything that's NSFW...

qviri · #7 Post by **qviri** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:30 pm

skitty4gzus wrote:it also gives a heads up to foks surfing from pda's or other portable browsers because at their connection it would really be slow loading.

Seeing as how both the main forum list and any given thread without embedded images weights 140-150 kilobytes (40-50 kB for HTML, 100 kB for images*), I don't think another 50 kB image is that major of a concern.

* Worst offender: drive caddys ad, 35 kB (this could easily be shaved to 10 kB or less). Not so bad: parrot picture, 17 kB; happy rainbow logo, 16 kB; laptopguy ad, 10 kB; NOD32 ad, 8 kB. Respectably sized: ecoupons and logicbuy ads, both only 3 kB.

#8 Post by **tomh009** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:12 pm

Good point on the header image sizes (though those only get loaded once) -- we'll have to replace DriveCaddys one with a smaller one.

But while a single 50 KB image might not make a huge difference, 10 of them would -- as would a single 500 KB (or larger) image. The "no images" rule is simple and easy to understand. And I think not too onerous in the end ...

Tholek · #9 Post by **Tholek** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:02 pm

I'm not asking the policy be changed, but is the reason for it still an issue in these days of broadband and wi-fi? I doubt many here still use dialup to access the forums, but I could be wrong.

#10 Post by **carbon_unit** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:22 pm

Yes, there are still some who access the forum with dial up or cellular from time to time. While they may have broadband at home they are not always at home or near broadband.

goofyGAguy · #11 Post by **goofyGAguy** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:46 pm

Tholek wrote:I'm not asking the policy be changed, but is the reason for it still an issue in these days of broadband and wi-fi? I doubt many here still use dialup to access the forums, but I could be wrong.

* Raises hand *

Tholek · #12 Post by **Tholek** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:10 pm

I didn't think about cellular.

Then again, those speeds have surpassed 56k, haven't they?

#13 Post by **KristianJ** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:11 pm

I've become a great advocate of the small thumbnail style links to images hosted via Imageshack (this is what I often use when I have pics to show. Also, I don't mind clicking on a link to a picture on another site instead of having the picture in the thread where it can affect the width of the page (if there are going to be pics embedded in a post, it would be prudent for members to consider reducing them to 800 x 600 or 640 x 480 before uploading). I have a fairly slow broadband connection, so big pics in the posts can be a bit cumbersome to wait for.

#14 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:43 pm

Personally, I am in agreement with your points, KristianJ. I am also a fan of thumbnail style links.

80% of the time I spend browsing this forum it is on a cellular connection. Only recently has the speed improved somewhat. However I find that as more people begin to use the technology, the speed slows down again. On cellular connections at least, images are the most problematic. Even the little icons strewn throughout most every webpage cause my browser to often go into a holding pattern. I believe what it is, is the browser calling for a fetch of each web page link (as the icons are basically little links). It is this constant fetching that slows down the page loading to a great degree. File downloads are quite fast, and streaming data works pretty good (videos and internet radio). It is web page loading that is the least helped by the new, faster technology.

So to sum up, my HSDPA 3G cellular connection cannot hold a candle to the slow 700 MBS ADSL connection that I sometimes can use. Even with ADSL at 700 MBS, web browsing is a much more pleasing experience than with my cellular connection as a rule. There are some exceptions. It seems when I have a good 3G signal in an area with a low population, at the right time of day, web browsing does go quite fast with my cellular connection. Unfortunately, this is the exception, rather than the rule.

Paul Unger · #15 Post by **Paul Unger** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:30 am

Tholek wrote:I'm not asking the policy be changed, but is the reason for it still an issue in these days of broadband and wi-fi? I doubt many here still use dialup to access the forums, but I could be wrong.

There are some overseas users who do not have access to high speed at home or at work--it just don't exist! So the 'no image' policy helps heaps.

Website · #16 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:40 am

I personally like the lack of pics, except where allowed, because I do check the forum quite often from my PDA (Dell Axim X51v)...and it helps since the connection isn't the fastest...even on broadband.

Elwyn · #17 Post by **Elwyn** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:44 am

Tholek wrote:I didn't think about cellular.

Then again, those speeds have surpassed 56k, haven't they?

Not necessarily. When I'm not in a 3G area (ie Rural or antiquated areas

) then my combination reverts back to 9,600 baud speeds. Which still works fine, albeit a little slow.

TBH on those settings it's probably worthwhile to disable images in the actual browser....

But the system that TPTB/Da Mods use here is perfectly acceptable. It's probably easier just to post the tags with URL rather than IMG tags anyway

Elwyn

#18 Post by **Kyocera** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:47 am

Links to pics is really the best way to go, it's simply one more mouse click, can't possibly imagine how that is an inconvienence.

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