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sammi · #1 Post by **sammi** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:36 pm

I bought a laptop and i was wondering if there was a possible way to send files from my old laptop to my new laptop. I have a wirless router i dont know if that helps. I was thinking, can i just buy a usb cable that has the same end on both sides. Hook 1 up to one pc and the other on the other then just transfer like that? Any help would be appretiated.

Stargate199 · #2 Post by **Stargate199** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:31 pm

If you can network the two computers, then just share the main drive of the laptop you want to copy files from and put them on the new one. If that doesn't work, you can buy an USB enclosure for 2.5" IDE HDD (laptop hard drive) and connect that to your computer to transfer the files.

#3 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:48 am

You can NOT use a USB-cable to transfer files between PCs/Laptops.
A crossover networking cable (CAT-5 with RJ45 plugs) could do it (which is one form of networking), as well as a Firewire cable, if both PCs have that.
Or network them normally,using a router.

#4 Post by **carbon_unit** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:57 am

There is such a thing as a USB data transfer cable but it is not just a USB male to male cable.
If you can network the two computers it would be much faster to move files across the network.

pianowizard · #5 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:46 am

Just connect them using a regular ethernet cable. Set the IP address for computer #1 as 10.10.10.1 and for computer #2 as 10.10.10.2. The subnet mask will be set automatically. Share the folders on the old computer so that they are visible to the new computer.

I just did this last week to transfer files from the Dell Inspiron 6000 that I had to sell to my new R50p. Because both had a 1Gbps port, it didn't take long to transfer about 38GB of files.

#6 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:09 am

pianowizard wrote:Just connect them using a regular ethernet cable.

How is this possible, surely you meant to say 'ethernet cross-over cable'?

pianowizard · #7 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:12 am

Harryc wrote:How is this possible, surely you meant to say 'ethernet cross-over cable'?

The fact that I've done it on at least 5 computers shows that it's possible. I don't even have any crossover cable.

#8 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:15 am

pianowizard wrote:
Harryc wrote:How is this possible, surely you meant to say 'ethernet cross-over cable'?
The fact that I've done it on at least 5 computers shows that it's possible. I don't even have any crossover cable.

Good one, it defies the laws of network data transmission, but ok

. I may be relying on old information too.

dr_st · #9 Post by **dr_st** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:31 am

Harryc wrote:Good one, it defies the laws of network data transmission, but ok . I may be relying on old information too.

All (or at least most) modern networking devices support automatic MDI/MDI-X configuration for transmit/receive wires, so both straight and crossover cables can be used.

#10 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:35 am

dr_st wrote:
Harryc wrote:Good one, it defies the laws of network data transmission, but ok . I may be relying on old information too.
All (or at least most) modern networking devices support automatic MDI/MDI-X configuration for transmit/receive wires, so both straight and crossover cables can be used.

Thanks for the information.

pianowizard · #11 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:50 am

dr_st wrote:All (or at least most) modern networking devices support automatic MDI/MDI-X configuration for transmit/receive wires, so both straight and crossover cables can be used.

Even my Gateway E-3200 Pentium II desktop computer made in 1998 could do it.

#12 Post by **carbon_unit** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:29 am

Most modern nics will autodetect whether it is a straight or crossover cable. If he has a router with a DHCP server there is no need to setup static IP addresses like you do when you just use a cable.
Either way works just one is a little easier.

#13 Post by **bill bolton** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:20 pm

Harryc wrote:Good one, it defies the laws of network data transmission, but ok . I may be relying on old information too.

Harry, as long as one of the Ethernet ports in a transaction is an Auto-MDIX port (that is, a port with auto-crossover capability), either a crossover or a straight through cable will work for a point to point connection.

Most Ethernet kit made over the past few years has Auto-MDIX crossover capability (as it makes it easier to support home users) but older kit will have only standard MDI ports.

Most recent ThinkPad models have Auto-MDIX Ethernet ports.

Cheers,

Bill B.

#14 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:28 pm

Thanks Bill, it's probably been 6-8 years or more since I'd looked into this, so I am definitely behind the ball on Auto-MDIX port capabilities. I appreciate the explanation.

sammi · #15 Post by **sammi** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:40 am

thanks for all the responces. I guess my next question would be, how do I make it possible to transwer files, my raouter is working i already have wirless connection in my house. But what are the procduers so that i can let one pc access another on this network and share files?

thanks

#16 Post by **GomJabbar** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:58 pm

#17 Post by **Kyocera** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:08 pm

Just connect them using a regular ethernet cable. Set the IP address for computer #1 as 10.10.10.1 and for computer #2 as 10.10.10.2. The subnet mask will be set automatically. Share the folders on the old computer so that they are visible to the new computer.

This is the easiest and the fastest way, however, to use a regular ethernet cable one of the macines must have an auto sensing nic, if not use a cross over. This is not hard or complicated in any way.

to share on your home network, make sure both pc's are on the same subnet,same workgroup, share the folders, apply permissions, you may need to turn off windows firewall in one of the machines, or both, your router should have a built in firewall.

sammi · #18 Post by **sammi** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:59 am

thank you very much

Rob Mayercik · #19 Post by **Rob Mayercik** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:52 am

[quote="KyoceraThis is the easiest and the fastest way, however, to use a regular ethernet cable one of the macines must have an auto sensing nic, if not use a cross over. This is not hard or complicated in any way.[/quote]

How does one determine this, by the way? You've got me wondering about the two PCMCIA ethernet cards I have for my 600 - both 3Com units, but I got them at computer shows with no documentation. Is there a list somewhere that I could reference to see if my cards have this sort of magic port?

#20 Post by **Kyocera** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:25 am

Rob, I don't know how to determine that other than trying it, the older model thinkpads do not have this capability, but i am not sure when it was implemented as standard equipment on nics, I know my T42 had it, but not my t30. As far as the 3com pcmcia cards since they are proprietary but at the same time high quality I would venture to say they do, but once again that is a guess.

I don't know the exact term for this type of nic as auto sensing refers to other aspects of nics and routers i.e. speed of the devices, that's just the term i've used, but magic port works for me too

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