Blacklist for GSM modem?

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Blacklist for GSM modem?

#1 Post by zdzichu » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:15 am

Hi,

I bought Z61t with integrated GSM modem, which do not work in country where I am now. This modem is pretty standard MiniPCIe card, so I'm considering replacing it with another module working in Poland.

Thinkpads have blacklist for wireless cards. So here a question: is similar blacklist in place for GSM modems?

Has anyone replaced original GSM modem?
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#2 Post by GomJabbar » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:52 am

Yep, same thing with WWAN cards.
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=44451

There appears to be an ulocked GSM modem available from Lenovo. The problem is, I do not know if your model of ThinkPad includes this card on it's Whitelist. Resellers are listing the card for $575 US. Ouch :!:
System service parts X60 tablet, X61 tablet wrote:Sierra Wireless MC8775 PCI Express MiniCard
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You may be better off just getting an PC Card, GSM modem.
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#3 Post by sugo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:43 am

Also, a genuine Lenovo WWAN that works for X61/s may not work for Z61t.
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#4 Post by zdzichu » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:36 pm

Thanks for replies. I'm little mad at Lenovo. Of course I can buy PCIMCIA GSM Modem, but is seems weird, as my laptop already has GSM antenna and place for this kind of modem :(

(and BTW, GSM Modem I'm talking about is WWAN card; EVDO, HSDPA are parts of GSM standard)
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#5 Post by bill bolton » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:32 pm

zdzichu wrote:(and BTW, GSM Modem I'm talking about is WWAN card; EVDO, HSDPA are parts of GSM standard)
EV-DO is basically a CDMA based technology and has nothing to do with the GSM standards.

Similarly HSPDA is basically a UMTS based technology and again has nothing to do with GSM standards.

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#6 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:46 pm

bill bolton wrote:Similarly HSPDA is basically a UMTS based technology and again has nothing to do with GSM standards.
While I suppose that is technically correct, it is nevertheless the technology used by the GSM providers for their 3G data network. In fact I have read that HSDPA can support a voice and data call simultaneously on one line. This was not available with EDGE or GPRS.

GSM Association wrote:"HSDPA is the natural next step in the evolution of GSM. It will bring broadband speeds to mobile networks."
Alan Harper, Group Strategy Director, Vodafone Group plc.
http://hspa.gsmworld.com/hspa-technology/default.asp


EV-DO is not used by GSM providers to the best of my knowledge.
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#7 Post by bill bolton » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:17 am

GomJabbar wrote:While I suppose that is technically correct, it is nevertheless the technology used by the GSM providers for their 3G data network.
Since a GSM device will not connect to UMTS there's no way that UMTS can be regarded as part of the GSM standards group.

UTMS can utilise a lot of GSM (aka 2G) infrastructure, which is why the GSM operators like it, but it is not GSM and was designed to be successor to GSM!

You need a multi-standard device (such as Nokia 6233 phone) with UMTS technology support to access 3G capability. The device switches modes from GSM to UTMS when in operates in 3G capability mode.

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