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nathan5603 · #1 Post by **nathan5603** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:45 pm

I just ordered a new Thinkpad T61. It has the 2.0Ghz Centrino Dual Core processor. I was wondering if anyone had issues running Suse on their T61? I upgraded to the Intel 4965 wireless card. Thank you in advance for reading and responding to my message.

Redmumba · #2 Post by **Redmumba** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:51 am

Not sure of any specifics, but on the few distributions that I've tested, the big problems have all been similar: wireless (4965 mostly, Atheros sounds fine), video card (fixable via drivers), and the UltraNav shebang (also fixable via drivers).

tatwell · #3 Post by **tatwell** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:37 pm

Not sure if this is any help to you, as I have a T60-1953DU that I bought about a year ago which is not the same machine as you have. But, I installed Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop as soon as I got my T60 as a dual boot with XP and I did not have any problems with any of the hardware working-as far as I can recall anyway. The only thing that I did not get working was the f keys, I tried a little to get these working, but it was not a priority. I have used Suse for a long time and have been quite pleased with it. I did eventually install Think Vantage Connections-downloaded from the IBM site I think-to manage my wireless, but I did not really need to do this. I just wanted to see if it worked. I think-sorry but it has been a busy year since I did the install-that the install was essentially painless, everything either worked right away, or took minimal tinkering. I do recall that I did the initial install and then tried a restore to see if it worked, and it did. I then did the Suse install and transferred my firefox and thunderbird info from my desktop to the T60 so that both units would be the same. The only problem I had was that I initially installed the Gnome desktop to use the xgl feature, but I have used KDe so long that I went back and loaded KDE. If I do it again I will just install KDE only as I have never been too comfortable with Gnome. So, I would hope that you could install SLED on your unit without too much trouble, if any-but I am not sure. I might add that my decision to buy a T60 was based on the information I got from the various linux forums that indicated that IBM had a good compatibility record with linux.

#4 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:46 pm

Second the 4965 issues...Atheros is the correct card for Linux.

Kaervak · #5 Post by **Kaervak** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:53 am

Thirded for the Atheros recommendation. I just upgraded to the 0.9.3.2 driver and holy crap the performance has been significantly improved. As far as running OpenSuse 10.2 (or any distro really) on a T60 the only real issue I can see is video drivers if the card is an ATi. There are pretty decent drivers for ATi under linux but right now nvidia is where it's at. I'm not entirely sure of their release schedule, but if you're not in a hurry 10.3 is going to be a significant improvement. Decreased boot time and most importantly they're getting rid of Zen for the package management which is a godsend.

hircus · #6 Post by **hircus** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:35 am

I disagree on the 4965/Atheros issue. Intel sponsors the development of open-source drivers for their wireless and graphics chipsets, while Atheros .. is rather strict with their NDAs (apparently only one OSS developer gets access to the specs, resulting in a delay of months until the hardware abstraction layer supported the latest pre-n chipsets).

Granted, there were no good drivers for the 4965 for a while, but now that the new wireless infrastructure is in the kernel, running 4965 with the iwlwifi driver seems the way to go (either compile your own kernel or install openSUSE 10.3b2)

mdtaylor69 · #7 Post by **mdtaylor69** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:09 pm

Compiling in 4965 support into OpenSuse 10.2 and getting it to work is a pretty major task. I am pretty comfortable compiling code and kernel modules and was unable to get the 4965 T61 WIFI working on OpenSuse 10.2 or OpenSuse 10.3A5 downloading the code directly from the Intel website. Someone claims success with OpenSuse 10.3B1:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installin ... inkPad_T61

I have a T61p on order with the 4965 WIFI and plan to install OpenSuse 10.3 final in early October.

#8 Post by **carbon_unit** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:34 pm

I tried to install 10.3 beta2 on an R61 but it blew chunks when it found the Nvidia Quadro 140m video chipset. I had video all through the install but when I booted into X all I got was a blank screen. I posted on one of the forums but no answer yet. It did recognize the 4965 card during the install but when I tried to configure it the settings would not stick. I'm sure they will have these things ironed out in the final release.

#9 Post by **Harryc** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:53 pm

carbon_unit wrote:I tried to install 10.3 beta2 on an R61 but it blew chunks when it found the Nvidia Quadro 140m video chipset. I had video all through the install but when I booted into X all I got was a blank screen. I posted on one of the forums but no answer yet. It did recognize the 4965 card during the install but when I tried to configure it the settings would not stick. I'm sure they will have these things ironed out in the final release.

"Default X.Org NVidia driver, called "nv" works.

Support for Quadro NVS 140M has been introduced in the NVIDIA Linux unified driver version 100.14.09 (released on 8 June 2007). For the latest drivers go to the NVIDIA Unix Drivers page. Note that NVIDIA proprietary drivers do not work with a Xen virtualized kernel."

I'd try running nv first, if that doesn't work install the nvidia drivers from the command line.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/NVidia_Quadro_NVS_140m

#10 Post by **carbon_unit** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:02 pm

The thing is that I cannot get a display at all. I tried editing (with a live cd) the xorg.conf to use the nv driver and then I tried using vesa but I still get no display. It's hard to work blind when you don't know your way around Suse.
I've used those drivers in other distro's and they work fine, but not here. Suse recognized my 140m fine during the install but not after. I even resorted to installing again and leaving everything at defaults but no go.
I am open to all suggestions.
I've already reinstalled grub from my Linux Mint install and it does not see Suse right now but I can fix that unless Suse uses some weird grub settings I don't know about.

Am I posting this in the wrong forum? http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index ... owforum=52
Two days and no reply???

#11 Post by **Harryc** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:10 pm

carbon_unit wrote: Am I posting this in the wrong forum? http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index ... owforum=52
Two days and no reply???

Yeah try this forum. http://www.suseforums.net/
There is a way to install the nvidia drivers from command line as long as you have some type of internet connection (ethernet is good) using wget.

#12 Post by **carbon_unit** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:31 pm

Do I post beta questions in a certain area or in the general area? I didn't see a beta section?
Are you over there on the weekends. My work schedule is pretty hectic this week and I don't know when I will have time to play with Suse.
I may be asking newb type questions in order to save time fiddling with settings.

#13 Post by **Harryc** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:32 pm

Here's the beta forum. I check in there every day just about.
http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showforum=64

#14 Post by **carbon_unit** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:51 pm

I just found it after I posted. Man my eyes are tired, and my brain.................................ugh.

mdtaylor69 · #15 Post by **mdtaylor69** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:57 pm

I just put OpenSuse 10.3 RC1 on a T61p with 4965 WIFI and Quadra 540m. VESA worked fine for the install, then I installed the Nvidia binary driver from www.nvidia.com and followed the suse instructions that were linked there:

http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-ins ... WTO.html#1

1) Kernel sources must be installed and configured. Usually this means
installing the 'kernel-source', 'make' and 'gcc' packages with YaST2.

2) Use the nvidia installer for 100.14.19.

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run -q

3) Configure X.Org with

sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia (0 is a digit, not a letter!)

WIFI worked out of the box. I had to goto YaST->Sound, and configure the 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller by setting the model to thinkpad.

The 32-bit version sees all 4 GB of RAM:

top - 10:55:44 up 16:57, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00
Tasks: 180 total, 1 running, 179 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu0 : 0.7%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Cpu1 : 0.7%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.7%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 4082320k total, 2018608k used, 2063712k free, 95100k buffers
Swap: 6345632k total, 0k used, 6345632k free, 1474912k cached

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