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Cecilia76 · #1 Post by **Cecilia76** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:10 pm

Hallo,

I asked IBM for a set of Recovery CD and they sent me the set.
I have 8 CDs: 1-7 are name "product Recovery CD" and 8 is alone
and is named "IBM rescue and recovery with Rapid restore".
To completely format and install everything from scratch (including
original ibm software) which CD should I use first?
Maybe the first of 1-7 series?

Thanks, C.

Zeitgeist · #2 Post by **Zeitgeist** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:34 pm

IBM normally sends the CDs with a "manual". Did you read this?

The answers is: you start with the CD called "IBM rescue and recovery..". The search function of this forum will help too.

none · #3 Post by **none** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:09 pm

Hey, how long did it take you to get the recovery disks?

Cecilia76 · #4 Post by **Cecilia76** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:18 pm

About 4-5 days.
Then manual is in deutch (german) and I can't read it.
So should I start with the Rescue and Recovery??
Is the n. 1 of 1-7 bootable?

Thanks.

CraigR · #5 Post by **CraigR** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:42 pm

Cecilia76,

I created my own Recovery CDs and went through the pain of a Restore to make sure that it worked. I found the process a little confusing and it seems that I am not the only one. Basically you boot off the Rescue and Recovery disk and eventually it asks for the Product Disc. After it has used the Product Disc and rebooted, you get to a point where you think it has done the restore, yet seems to be back in the R&R program running the Product Disc recovery again. Actually, it is not repeating itself and you do need to let it finish the process.

My original confusion on the subject is here:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=4683

To reiterate - it seems like the software does a long recovery from the Product Disc, and is about to reboot to complete the process, and then you seem to be back in the R&R program again running the Product Disc recovery again - but you DO need to go through this process. The second time around it will eventually start running scripts and your machine will be reinstalled cleanly.

Good luck,
Craig

Channel K · #6 Post by **Channel K** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:26 pm

So when you buy a new thinkpad, it doesn't include system or data recovery disks? You have to order separately only when your computer
goes wrong?

lfeagan · #7 Post by **lfeagan** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:16 pm

No, it doesn't come with them by default. Kinda silly, but whatever. The general consensus is to make a preemptive strike and order them within the first 30 days so that you don't have to pay for them. After that I do believe they charge you some money, though not much. If you have a T42 you don't need them to send you disks and can make your own and should upon receiving your laptop. It takes about an hour or so to generate the 7 CDs it makes.

sktn77a · #8 Post by **sktn77a** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:23 pm

IBM Rescue and recovery/Rapid Restore is the only bootable disk in the set. Boot from this first then follow the instructions for disks 1-7.

Just follw the instructions let it run and you should be fine.

Cecilia76 · #9 Post by **Cecilia76** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:38 pm

Thank you everybody.
I will try tomorrow to recover my system. Actually I tried to build the CDs myself but the program stopped with an ugly error so I asked IBM for the CDs.

Bye, C.

lvlolvlo · #10 Post by **lvlolvlo** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:58 pm

They charge you ~$50 US. inclusive of shipping. I've heard that they've(on these forums) that they(IBM) has stopped giving them out even within the 30-day period. For sure though if your HD goes dead, they'll send you out a new HD and ask you if you need the recovery CD's for free

#11 Post by **JaneL** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:38 pm

>No, it doesn't come with them by default. Kinda silly, but whatever.
>

It's not really silly when you consider what IBM's target market is. Many, if not most, of IBM's larger customers who buy TPs by the hundreds and thousands at a time have their own license arrangements with Microsoft and their own custom preload (which is frequently preloaded either by IBM or a VAR before the system comes inhouse). They have no need for restore CDs for IBM's base image, so IBM only provides them on request.

If nothing else, think of the landfill space that is saved - I know that when the CDs used to come in the box automatically, I threw away hundreds of them.

none · #12 Post by **none** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:11 pm

You wanna talk landfills, think of AOL CDs! :p

waterside · #13 Post by **waterside** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:51 pm

nonny wrote:>No, it doesn't come with them by default. Kinda silly, but whatever.
>

It's not really silly when you consider what IBM's target market is. Many, if not most, of IBM's larger customers who buy TPs by the hundreds and thousands at a time have their own license arrangements with Microsoft and their own custom preload (which is frequently preloaded either by IBM or a VAR before the system comes inhouse). They have no need for restore CDs for IBM's base image, so IBM only provides them on request.

If nothing else, think of the landfill space that is saved - I know that when the CDs used to come in the box automatically, I threw away hundreds of them.

Actually it has absolutely nothing to do with that.

It costs $$ to ship sets of CDs with every TP. Instead, IBM provides a recovery partition that is simpler and faster to use than recovery CDs. The recovery partition provides all the same software as the CDs.

The majority of users will generally not need to rebuild, or will do so infrequently. The recovery partition suits their needs well. For the rest, IBM provides the ability to request recovery CDS. For those that need to replace their hard drive under warranty, IBM includes recovery CDs with the replacement.

I'm in the apparent minority. I actually prefer to use the recovery partition. Rebuilds are far faster and require absolutely no interaction from me once I initiate a rebuild. The few GB lost are no big deal to me - even with all the apps I have loaded (The entire MSDN Universal set to start with, and a vmware linux client as well) don't even come close to filling half my 60GB drive.

My only qualm with the recovery partition is that the files are in proprietary format (from IBM's ImageUltra Builder), password protected, and not easily modifiable. I'm actually working on a procedure to be able to rebuild the recovery partition (as posted in another thread), but I hit a roadblock when I discovered the eval versions of IUB allow rebuilds from netowrk only (as opposed to CD). . .

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