Wireless Driver Problems

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chadwicktr · #1 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:28 am

I just did a fresh install on my new T61 of XP home oem sp2. Everything is updated via windows update, and all of the updates I want from System update.

however, I tried to get my Thinkpad A/G/B installed first, but it will not install. It goes through the "found new hardware" routine (it comes up as a ethernet controller?, the intel ethernet is working), but says it cannot install a driver for the device.

What is going on...

chadwicktr · #2 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:18 am

When I choose what file to use (have disk) and select the file from C:\windows\system32\NET5416.INF it just says this device cannot start.

Ugh

#3 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:08 am

Where did you get the card from and is it really an a/b/g or is it an /a/b/g/n? If it's an a/b/g/n this is the correct driver -
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 66449.html

#4 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:10 am

Download the driver on the following page and read through the readme file for installation instructions.

Wireless LAN ThinkPad 11abgn for Windows XP, 2000 - ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61, R61e, T60, T60p, T61, T61p, X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet, Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t

chadwicktr · #5 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:51 am

That is the driver I've tried. It's a A/B/G Card... this is very frustrating, I've never had a problem like this.

It almost appears that Windows is having trouble installing it's own drivers. The Wireless card won't install, the modem won't install, and a PCI device won't install (I can't remember what the PCI is right off the top of my head... I stayed up until 3am messing with it).

Please post any other ideas. I'm at a loss...

#6 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:43 am

chadwicktr wrote:That is the driver I've tried. It's a A/B/G Card... this is very frustrating, I've never had a problem like this.

It almost appears that Windows is having trouble installing it's own drivers. The Wireless card won't install, the modem won't install, and a PCI device won't install (I can't remember what the PCI is right off the top of my head... I stayed up until 3am messing with it).

Please post any other ideas. I'm at a loss...

Ok, so where did you get it from? T61's shipped with a few Intel cards and only one Atheros card and it is a/b/g/n. Check your invoice.

chadwicktr · #7 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:34 am

It was through EPP phone order.

Here is the pcwizard info:

Network Card : Atheros Communications Inc 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter

Here is my info from the order confirmation:

41W1685 SBB 11ABGWIFI WL LAN USEULAANZ

It's a summary of what I've done:

I did a fresh install of XP Home SP2

I tried to install the Thinkpad A/B/G wireless card with the driver GoJammer linked, the extract went fine. The setup.exe ran fine which copies the inf's over to system32 folder ran fine. But when windows tried to run through "found new hardware wizard" it will not find a proper driver and won't install.

I then installed the intel ethernet driver just fine. Next I downloaded the chipset driver that installed.

Then, I went through windows update and system update with that installing power manager, APS, graphics driver, hotkey utility, bluetooth, wireless usb, HPA bus for sound, and the sound max driver. All of these work.

However, I've tried installing the wireless at several different points during all of this to no avail. There is a poster in the T6x forum with the same problem.

chadwicktr · #8 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:59 am

GomJabbar wrote:Download the driver on the following page and read through the readme file for installation instructions.

Wireless LAN ThinkPad 11abgn for Windows XP, 2000 - ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61, R61e, T60, T60p, T61, T61p, X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet, Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t

From the readme:

Manual Install

This section assumes to use Internet Explorer and Explorer.

Downloading files
1. Click once on the underlined file name with the left mouse button.
Once this is done, a pop-up window will appear.
2. In this pop-up window, choose (using the left mouse button) the
directory you would like to download the file to and click the
"Save" button. A different window will appear and the download
will begin and complete without your assistance.
3. Once the download has completed, there may or may not be a
message stating that the download completed successfully.
4. After being downloaded, the file will need to be extracted.

Extracting files
5. Locate the directory where the file was downloaded.
6. Locate the file that was just downloaded and double click it
using the left mouse button.
7. The file will begin to extract in the directory where the
downloaded file is located.

Install files
8. Make sure to be logged on with administrative privileges.
9. Open an Explorer and locate the directory where the files were
extracted.
10. Double-click SETUP file.
11. Follow the instructions on the screen.
12. Restart the computer.

Finally delete the file saved in the step 2.

This is exactly what I've done. But it cannot find the driver.

chadwicktr · #9 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:13 pm

I just formatted and reinstalled with XP Home SP1 OEM...

Same problem... That driver isn't working

chadwicktr · #10 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:23 pm

I just did another clean install with XP Home OEM SP1, and it is doing the same thing. For some reason, this driver is not working with XP at all.

#11 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:38 pm

Try this driver ...

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-52527

Summary of changes
Version 5.3.0.35 (77WC73WW)

* (New) Support for Access Connections 4.22.
* (New) Support for ThinkPad R61, T61.
* (New) Support for ThinkPad X61, X61s, X61 Tablet.

deforest · #12 Post by **deforest** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:41 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Download the driver on the following page and read through the readme file for installation instructions.

Wireless LAN ThinkPad 11abgn for Windows XP, 2000 - ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61, R61e, T60, T60p, T61, T61p, X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet, Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t

That driver isn't for the Atheros Communications Inc 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter if you read the description:

- ThinkPad 11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
- ThinkPad 11b/g/n Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter

What you need is this driver

Wireless LAN adapter software (ThinkPad 802.11bg, 802.11abg) for Windows XP and 2000 - ThinkPad

Drove me crazy because I went to the link that GomJabbar indicated from another page that said it was for the abg card, and after trying to install it multiple times, realized that it was for an abgn card, and through research realized that the abg card is used in the z60 where they lists both abg and abgn drivers separately.

For cross reference you can go to Access Connections and see they list the cards independently too.

chadwicktr · #13 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:41 pm

Here is another thread on NBR dealing with the issue (see post 2 and following)

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=132371

Still haven't googled a resolution yet.

Why won't the T61 with XP take the atheros drivers! ugh this is getting to be very fustrating

Thanks for you help, trying driver now

chadwicktr · #14 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:46 pm

deforest wrote:

That driver isn't for the Atheros Communications Inc 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter if you read the description:

- ThinkPad 11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
- ThinkPad 11b/g/n Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter

What you need is this driver

Wireless LAN adapter software (ThinkPad 802.11bg, 802.11abg) for Windows XP and 2000 - ThinkPad

Drove me crazy because I went to the link that GomJabbar indicated from another page that said it was for the abg card, and after trying to install it multiple times, realized that it was for an abgn card, and through research realized that the abg card is used in the z60 where they lists both abg and abgn drivers separately.

For cross reference you can go to Access Connections and see they list the cards independently too.

THANKS!! I tried looking at different machine types for a strictly ABG driver but I didn't check the Z series.

Although the description online only mentions ABGN, when you install the program the first install screen says for ABGN, ABG, AB thinkpad cards

Can this be made a sticky? This has taken several hours of my time up searching for and answer. Thank you so much guys! I love this forum

#15 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:48 pm

chadwicktr wrote:Why won't the T61 with XP take the atheros drivers!

I blame it on Lenovo. They are installing Atheros a/b/g wifi cards in T61 models but not documenting it well or at all. I know that some of the mods here can open up incident reports with Lenovo, this would be a good candidate. Nowhere in the parts/system reference guide for a model T61 does it mention Thinkpad a/b/g cards as an option. (it only mentions Thinkpad a/b/g/n)

chadwicktr · #16 Post by **chadwicktr** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:55 pm

Harryc wrote:
chadwicktr wrote:Why won't the T61 with XP take the atheros drivers!
I blame it on Lenovo. They are installing Atheros a/b/g wifi cards in T61 models but not documenting it well or at all. I know that some of the mods here can open up incident reports with Lenovo, this would be a good candidate. Nowhere in the parts/system reference guide for a model T61 does it mention Thinkpad a/b/g cards as an option. (it only mentions Thinkpad a/b/g/n)

I've just wasted 6 hours of frustation because they don't link that driver with my machine type and the driver they do list claims in the installer it's for a ABG AB and ABGN card...

Thanks so much guys!

#17 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:54 pm

chadwicktr wrote:Can this be made a sticky? This has taken several hours of my time up searching for and answer. Thank you so much guys! I love this forum

I am sorry it took you so many hours to find the solution, but IMO this one incident does not rate a Sticky. We cannot Sticky the solution to every problem that ThinkPad owners experience. Now that your problem and solution have been documented, other forum members or moderators can more quickly help users that encounter the same problem - at least until Lenovo resolves the issue.

I will pass along what was discovered here to someone that should be able to get this resolved on Lenovo's end.

#18 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:13 pm

GomJabbar wrote: I will pass along what was discovered here to someone that should be able to get this resolved on Lenovo's end.

GomJabbar, thank-you.

chadwicktr · #19 Post by **chadwicktr** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:15 pm

GomJabbar wrote: I am sorry it took you so many hours to find the solution, but IMO this one incident does not rate a Sticky. We cannot Sticky the solution to every problem that ThinkPad owners experience. Now that your problem and solution have been documented, other forum members or moderators can more quickly help users that encounter the same problem - at least until Lenovo resolves the issue.

I will pass along what was discovered here to someone that should be able to get this resolved on Lenovo's end.

No problem, there definitely would be enough keywords to find this in the search. Thanks for the help...

#20 Post by **GomJabbar** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:35 am

New Wireless LAN adapter software (ThinkPad 802.11bg, 802.11abg) for Windows XP and 2000 - ThinkPad for the T61 (and other models).

Lenovo wrote:This package provides the Wireless LAN driver and Utility Software for the following Wireless LAN adapters.

- IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II
- IBM 11b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI adapter
- ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
- ThinkPad 11b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter (II)

This release supports the following ThinkPad systems:
- ThinkPad G41
- ThinkPad R50, R50e, R50p, R51, R51e, R52
- ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61, R61e, R61i
- ThinkPad T43, T43p
- ThinkPad T60, T60p, T61, T61p
- ThinkPad X32
- ThinkPad X40, X41, X41 Tablet
- ThinkPad X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet
- ThinkPad Z60m, Z60t, Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t

File details

Version: 5.3.0.35h
Release Date: 2007/09/06

This is also now listed in the driver matrix page for the T61.

danny_isr · #21 Post by **danny_isr** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:47 pm

i tried all the drivers that you guys post here, and none seems to work.

i just installed , and reboot. and i dont see that XP recognize it.

i did try to install access connection with no success either.

my card is the Atheros ABG...

thanks Dan

#22 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:01 am

@danny_isr
You probably downloaded the driver file from Lenovo, then ran the file. All this does is extract the file's contents to your hard drive. You then need to go to the directory the files were extracted to and (generally) run Setup.exe. These files will be extracted to a subfolder of C:\Drivers\. If you want to find out what is in any of these subfolders, double-click on the .XML file in that folder, then read through what you see, to see which driver/software that folder applies to, and the version level of that driver/software.

If you read through the installation instructions for each of these downloads, you will find the exact procedure to use.

EDIT: After downloading and extracting the driver file to your hard drive, you can run Software Installer (uncheck box to: "Retrieve latest information on the internet") and let it install the driver. Or you can just run Software Installer and let it find the driver on the internet, download and install it.

danny_isr · #23 Post by **danny_isr** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:14 pm

thanks , i did figure the wireless one and it works fine.
i still have 2

"pci device"
"pci simple Commuinication Controller"

how can i know what pci device is ?
my sound doest either , i think i need to update that too.
i'm not sure why the "system update" didn't fix all those ??

#24 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:15 pm

Could be Bluetooth, could be the modem - I don't know. Did you install the Intel Chipset drivers?

danny_isr · #25 Post by **danny_isr** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:16 am

yes installed the intel , and blue tooth works
maybe Modem dial up ?

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