Apple selling more laptops than dell to consumer market

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wearetheborg · #1 Post by **wearetheborg** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:44 am

This came totally as a surprise to me. I thought dell was a "mass market" laptop manufacturer. And now Apple is selling more laptops !
http://www.computerworld.com/action/art ... c=hm_topic

qviri · #2 Post by **qviri** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 am

Uhh.

TFA wrote:Meanwhile, Apple Inc. sold 1.1 million MacBook and MacBook Pro portables during the second-calendar quarter

Since when are Macbook Pros "consumer" laptops?

pianowizard · #3 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:23 am

qviri wrote:Since when are Macbook Pros "consumer" laptops?

You think they are designed for business use?

qviri · #4 Post by **qviri** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:25 am

pianowizard wrote:
qviri wrote:Since when are Macbook Pros "consumer" laptops?
You think they are designed for business use?

What is your definition of "business"?

pianowizard · #5 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:29 am

qviri wrote:What is your definition of "business"?

Serious work, as opposed to entertainment or casual uses.

qviri · #6 Post by **qviri** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:11 am

Then yes, they are designed for serious work and not just casual uses.

pianowizard · #7 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:18 am

qviri wrote:Then yes, they are designed for serious work and not just casual uses.

The MacBook Pros are certainly powerful enough for serious work. But if you have seen Apple's commercials, you'd know that they cater their products mainly to consumers.

qviri · #8 Post by **qviri** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:21 am

pianowizard wrote:Look at Apple's commercials. They clearly cater their products to consumers.

If you look at Lenovo's commercials you may get the impression they cater their products to people who throw their notebooks at walls.

pianowizard · #9 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:29 am

qviri wrote:If you look at Lenovo's commercials you may get the impression they cater their products to people who throw their notebooks at walls.

No I don't. You do?

mattbiernat · #10 Post by **mattbiernat** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:37 pm

how many windows only applications are you gonna run on a mac? unless of course you are willing to install an unsupported OS on it. MacBook Pro was just design to look like a buisness notebook but aimed solely at the consumer market.
the only buisness that seriously uses OSX is movie industry since AVID is not for windows.

#11 Post by **BillMorrow** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:41 am

a SERIOUS business user would want to be able to swap HDD's easily..
and have an "ultrabay"..
and more..
a Macbook is a black box..
much more so than a thinkpad..

IMO Macbook is for students and casual users much more than business users..

the lines are not hard between each, though..

good one, qviri..

If you look at Lenovo's commercials you may get the impression they cater their products to people who throw their notebooks at walls.

NS · #12 Post by NS » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:26 am

qviri wrote:
pianowizard wrote:

You missed out these points too..

--> also sunk their thinkpad into water, roll over with a truck, thrown from a 2 storey high building.. More like, allowing people to vent their fustrations on their products..

wearetheborg · #13 Post by **wearetheborg** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:33 pm

NS wrote: You missed out these points too..

--> also sunk their thinkpad into water, roll over with a truck, thrown from a 2 storey high building.. More like, allowing people to vent their fustrations on their products..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0163225921

#14 Post by **gator** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:14 pm

wearetheborg wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0163225921

I really don't get your point. That ebay sale does not mention anything about intentional damage. Reading from the Q/A on that page, it seems to be that the laptop was accidentally stepped on and is being parted out. Importantly, the laptop still looks (apprearance wise) decent and might be salvageable with new parts, even after taking that damage. If that does not make a "serious business laptop", nothing will.

Troels · #15 Post by **Troels** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:25 pm

Apple - to me - qualifies as the typical all looks, but bad design that - if it breaks - throw it out, buy a new one.
Apple's design is not modular, unlike Lenovo's. If the LCD breaks, the LCD is glued onto the frame, so replacing it takes more time, and the glue solution is not thought through.
Accidents happen.... Sturdiness of macbooks is no better than the rest of the lot of consumer laptop lot.
Apart from that Apple customer service over here is quite bad - for consumer at least.
The few times i had to contact IBM Denmark they were extremely professional - and kept stock of nearly all replacement parts too.

It doesn't surprise me they outsell Dell. MB and MBPs is all the rage over here.

mattbiernat · #16 Post by **mattbiernat** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:30 pm

except for the high end $2000 notebooks, apple produces very low quality laptops. i bought ibook and solid it after 8 months. the battery was sticking out .2inches, the keyboard was broken which they refused to fix because it was still "functional", the LCD was detaching from the frame and the speaker were refusing to work properly. that's a substandard quality and substandard customer service. lenovo at least makes quality laptops... although the "lenovo horror" stories become quite common these days...

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