Cloning HD with Acronis

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Cloning HD with Acronis

#1 Post by SetTainte » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:57 am

I'm about to change a new hard drive to my T61p.

1. I have installed Acronis True Image Home.

2. I have my old HD at original place and the new one in HD-bay

3. I have typed

BCDEDIT /set {bootmgr} device boot
BCDEDIT /set {default} device boot
BCDEDIT /set {default} osdevice boot

one-by-one to start --> run

4. From Acronis I have done HD Management --> Clone

Now comes the problem because before Acronis starts doin anything it requires to boot and after I press "boot" button it says:

E000A03EE: Unable to get volume for the letter file

Cannot reboot Windows you might not have enough privileges to reboot.

What am I doing wrong?

I do have the administrator priviledges and in fact my account is the only one in this laptop...

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#2 Post by carbon_unit » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:12 am

Make the Acronis boot cd and do the cloning from it.
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#3 Post by SetTainte » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:07 am

I made the CD and did the cloning succesfully.

But what went wrong because after physically switching HDs I couldn't start Windows?
There is error 0xc0000225 in winload.exe and windows cant start loading...

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#4 Post by carbon_unit » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:26 am

I don't know, I have never had that problem. It always just works for me. I have done this many times without and error. I always have the new drive in the HD bay and the old drive in the ultrabay, if that matters.
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#5 Post by SetTainte » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:34 am

carbon_unit wrote:I don't know, I have never had that problem. It always just works for me. I have done this many times without and error. I always have the new drive in the HD bay and the old drive in the ultrabay, if that matters.
Did you see this thread? http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=
Yes. Obviously I should have typed those lines into CMD.
But then there came a new problem:
SetTainte wrote:What is wrong because when I type this:

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BCDEDIT /set {bootmgr} device boot
BCDEDIT /set {default} device boot
BCDEDIT /set {default} osdevice boot
into cmd it says:
The boot configuration data store could not be opened.
Acces is denied.
I'm the only user of the laptop and I sure have administrator rights.

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#6 Post by K0LO » Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:40 am

You need an elevated command prompt.

Click on START, type "CMD", right-click on "cmd.exe" and choose "Run as administrator".
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#7 Post by SetTainte » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:08 pm

k0lo wrote:You need an elevated command prompt.

Click on START, type "CMD", right-click on "cmd.exe" and choose "Run as administrator".
Yes, I got that and have been working with my new hard drive for over an hour now =)

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#8 Post by sgmidf » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:20 pm

I'm getting ready to clone my Vista drive and will take this great advice. Does it need to be reversed after cloning or can I leave my drives alone with these settings?

Thanks

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#9 Post by K0LO » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:39 pm

sgmidf:

You can leave the BCD with these changes. The changes make a generalized BCD, which means that the pointers refer to the partition that Vista just booted from. In most cases that is what you want.
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#10 Post by sgmidf » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:57 pm

Thanks for the quick response. I assume that I hit return between each or the 3 commands, rather than put them on one line?

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#11 Post by K0LO » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:13 pm

Yes, and don't forget that you need the "elevated command prompt" as described above.
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#12 Post by sgmidf » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:42 pm

When I access "run" it says that "this task will be created with administrator privileges" so I think I'm OK in that regard.

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Re: Cloning HD with Acronis

#13 Post by bill bolton » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:51 pm

SetTainte wrote:3. I have typed

BCDEDIT /set {bootmgr} device boot
BCDEDIT /set {default} device boot
BCDEDIT /set {default} osdevice boot.
I've never done this, just mounted the target drive in the Ultrabay Slim carrier and run the clone operation from Acronis, in Windows on the boot drive.

Its worked fine for me every time under both XP and Vista.

Cheers,

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#14 Post by K0LO » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:14 am

Bill:

The changes to the BCD are not necessary if you are making an exact clone of your original disk. If you resize partitions while cloning, however, and the original disk layout was created by Vista and has the newer 2048-sector offset, then the partitioning routines in TrueImage will relocate the new partitions so that they have the older 63-sector offset.

If the starting sector of your Vista partition gets moved during this relocation then its GUID will change. The BCD file references partition pointers by GUID, so it will fail to boot. You will probably see the "Winload.exe is missing or corrupt" error. This is easily fixed with a repair from a Vista DVD. The steps above prepare the BCD to reference the Vista partition as the one that was just booted, so doing the steps before cloning makes the pointers in the BCD independent of GUID, so you can freely relocate partitions without producing the error.

You would not want to do this if you have a layout where you boot from one partition but Vista is located in another partition. Some dual-boot arrangements are set up this way. In those cases, the pointers in the BCD must refer to the Vista partition by drive letter instead of by using the generic "boot" reference.
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#15 Post by crashnburn » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:09 pm

Interesting. I was planning to back up my T61 using Acronis as well.
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