T23 for a replacement?

Message

superman_06 · #1 Post by **superman_06** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:13 am

Well I bought another broken laptop...LOL I got a T23 on the way from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0160468827

After I got frustrated with my T21 and some weird RF error. I am hoping to use my T21 hard drive in the new T23 (if it needs it), I dont think the guy who sold it knows anything about the laptop, ECU speed, RAM. Can someone tell me the pro and cons of a T23, it currently says "will not find operateing system" Whats the fastest ECU the T23 will support?

Timoti · #2 Post by **Timoti** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:02 am

AFAIK the biggest CPU a T23 supports is 1,2GHz. The fun stuff is, they use the 133MHz FSB Pentium3, therefore are faster than the T20-22. They use PC133 SD-RAM modules, and can take up to 1GB.

This means that you can't use the CPU or RAM of your T21. But the hard disk should be okay. As for not loading the OS, there can be a few dozen reasons.

Website · #3 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:47 pm

The error about it not finding the OS, could relate to either a dead hard drive...

Your T21 ram might work in the T23. I have seen a few T21s that passed through my hands, and some of them had Low Density PC133 ram in them. If the ram that you currently have in the T21 is Low Density PC133, it might work...

superman_06 · #4 Post by **superman_06** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:43 pm

tfflivemb2 wrote:The error about it not finding the OS, could relate to either a dead hard drive...

Your T21 ram might work in the T23. I have seen a few T21s that passed through my hands, and some of them had Low Density PC133 ram in them. If the ram that you currently have in the T21 is Low Density PC133, it might work...

Dead Hard drive or..........?

I have also found out that this T23 has a 1.3Ghz ECU in it and 256mb of the pc133 ram, The HD comes with it, I think before I replace it, I may try o save it....with this forum's help, that is.

joester · #5 Post by **joester** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:07 pm

I would partition and format it. Then try to install the OS.

Joe

superman_06 · #6 Post by **superman_06** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:50 pm

OK... I got the T23 at first, I was kinda discouraged at first, it looked pretty ruff, But it cleaned up really nice, though the bottom cover doors (SS) seem to have a lot of paint chips in them. The 256mb of RAM is all on one chip. When I tried to boot it up, you can here the hard drive, "Clang BANG" , I dont think its going to make it. So I took my T21 HD (which had some random lock-up problems then finnally crash, with an RF error), Well it starts to boot then goes to the dreaded blue screen, I have one more HD but its clean...with no programing. I D/L windows XP with limewire, but I cant get it to work. Any suggestions?

#7 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:29 pm

That T23 CPU is probably a 1.13GHz, they don't have any faster than 1.2GHz.
If it really is a 1.3, it won't work!

If you have a floppy drive, see if it boots from there (press F12 at boot to select booting device).
You can try the same with a(ny) self-booting CD.

Kaervak · #8 Post by **Kaervak** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:32 pm

The T21 drive is blue screening because the IDE controllers are different between the T21 and T23. Eventhough the drive works just fine, XP can't see it because it doesn't have the right driver installed for that controller. If you can find another T21 system that boots withou issue, put the drive back in and go to the device manager and delete the IDE controllers. That should be all that needs to be done to get the drive to boot into windows on the T23.

superman_06 · #9 Post by **superman_06** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:42 pm

Kaervak wrote:The T21 drive is blue screening because the IDE controllers are different between the T21 and T23. Eventhough the drive works just fine, XP can't see it because it doesn't have the right driver installed for that controller. If you can find another T21 system that boots withou issue, put the drive back in and go to the device manager and delete the IDE controllers. That should be all that needs to be done to get the drive to boot into windows on the T23.

Is there any other way to delete the IDE controllers? The welcome windows XP is booting for about a second then bluescreening,

And sorry I did miss quote it is a 1.13 and NOT a 1.3, I just mis-read it in cmos. I have no Floppy drive on the T23.

If anyone knows what a RF anntenna error 193 is, then I may be able to boot the HD up on the T21, But I dont think the T21 ever had a RFID on it, and I cant seem to get around it for it to boot up.

Kaervak · #10 Post by **Kaervak** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:28 pm

I don't think there's any other way to get around deleting the driver other than getting the XP install running on another T21. As far as the RF antenna error goes, IBM's site shows that to fix the error you need to enter the supervisor password.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... IGR-4K2MCU

If you know the password, it seems a fairly easy fix. And even if you don't know the password, it's still a somewhat easy fix, but we can't talk about there.

superman_06 · #11 Post by **superman_06** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:09 pm

Well I cant figure out where I would enter any password, I can go to the Bios and go to the RF security and try clear the error by hitting enter.... but it just beeps, and when I save and restart it comes up error 193 again

Kaervak · #12 Post by **Kaervak** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:34 pm

Hmm, that's odd. Have you tried loading the BIOS defaults at all? Can you get the system to boot further than the error? If you can, try flashing the BIOS to the newest revision. Aside from that, I haven't a clue. Maybe the EEPROM checksum is screwed up and needs to be recalculated?

superman_06 · #13 Post by **superman_06** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:40 am

my Bios version is 1.6 (KZET34WW)

I have tried
Clearing the fault, though RFID secuity
Reloading the defaults
Removing the cmos battery (to clear)
violently cussing it
I took the T21 apart down to where the RFID assest would be (none there)
Booted without , CD-drive or mini pci card
Dianostic boot
Setting a supervisory password, then boot

I havent a clue how to flash bios or what EEPROM is....So I would say this is going to be my problem, I dont know if this will help but the T21 sometimes will lock up during boot, none of the HD lights will be on only flash once then it will just sit there at the thinkpad IBM screen

T23 for a replacement?

T23 for a replacement?

Who is online