Vista on T61 is the SUCK!

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Re: Vista on T61 is the SUCK!

#61 Post by prophecy » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:44 pm

T23_Owner wrote:So I am trying, I am REALLY trying to accept vista but I just can't. Random blue screens, slow as hell, I mean really slow. Ram hog. Its just plain junk. In the process of installing XP Media center on it and am pretty much done. Its so much faster to have XP.

Am I alone here or do most of you feel the same way. Its like Vista is just making the T61 feel like an A20P. Am I wrong?
Dude, I am so with you. I almost can't take it anymore. Literally takes 3 minutes to come out of windows lock mode. After leaving my computer for 5 minutes, windows locks it, when I come back, i put in my password, go make some coffee, and by the time I'm back it's usually ready to go. Takes a good 5 minutes to shutdown, probably 2-5 minutes to sleep. I'm embarrassed to show people anything unless the computer is in work mode (especially when I see my friend open his sleeping Macbook and he's working within seconds and I am fiddling with my fingers for 5 minutes).

Then there are the things even when you are just working away on the computer, like when I get a call on skype, the computer hangs for so long that I can rarely get a chance to answer the call in time. Sometimes the hard drive will just pin itself for 10 minutes which makes every other program non-responsive and when I check in Resource Monitor it's a System process.

Is this normal for Vista notebooks or is it only Vista on Lenovo notebooks?

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Re: Vista on T61 is the SUCK!

#62 Post by erik » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:21 pm

prophecy wrote:Literally takes 3 minutes to come out of windows lock mode. After leaving my computer for 5 minutes, windows locks it, when I come back, i put in my password, go make some coffee, and by the time I'm back it's usually ready to go.
do you have lenovo client security solutions installed?   if so, uninstall it.
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#63 Post by prophecy » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:43 pm

I've uninstalled all Think* apps except:

ThinkPad model
ThinkPad Bluetooth
ThinkPad UltraNav Driver and Utility
ThinkVantage Active Protection System

Still slower than molasses.

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Re: Vista on T61 is the SUCK!

#64 Post by BradS » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:22 am

prophecy wrote:
Is this normal for Vista notebooks or is it only Vista on Lenovo notebooks?
I dont think its normal for either. I have a T61 with factory installed vista and it runs like butter. Less then a minute for shutdown, startup, sleep is extremely fast....

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Re: Vista on T61 is the SUCK!

#65 Post by brentpresley » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:22 pm

BradS wrote:
prophecy wrote:
Is this normal for Vista notebooks or is it only Vista on Lenovo notebooks?
I dont think its normal for either. I have a T61 with factory installed vista and it runs like butter. Less then a minute for shutdown, startup, sleep is extremely fast....

WERD. If Vista isn't fast for you - there is a problem. And that probably usually falls under 1 of 2 categories: insufficient RAM (1GB or less), or a rogue driver (usual culprit).
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#66 Post by T23_Owner » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:12 pm

Well I finally got vista 64 all installed and it is running good. From pressing the power button it takes 45 seconds to password prompt. Not bad. There are still a bunch of problems but I am slowly working them out. My current problem is how to install php on this thing as the php installer didn't start php for me so its just another thing I have to spend all night reading about. Media center is useless, having turbo memory enabled screws up sleep and a few others but basically if you don't use turbo memory or media center it works great. :roll:
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#67 Post by erik » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:01 pm

T23_Owner wrote:My current problem is how to install php on this thing as the php installer didn't start php for me so its just another thing I have to spend all night reading about.
assuming you already have IIS7 installed...

1. download PHP x64 5.2.4 (this is the same version i'm running).
2. unzip it to c:\php
3. copy c:\php\php.ini-dist to c:\windows and rename it "php.ini"
4. open IIS
5. click Handler Mappings
6. click Add Script Map...
7. fill in the following:
    Request path:   *.php
    Executable:   c:\php\php5isapi.dll
    Name:   php
8. click OK
9. click Yes

done.
T23_Owner wrote:Media center is useless, having turbo memory enabled screws up sleep and a few others but basically if you don't use turbo memory or media center it works great. :roll:
your issues with media center are likely due to your video driver.   DVD playback in media center works great on my T61p.   check windows update for a WHQL-certified driver for your GPU and install it if one is available.

turbo memory is widely accepted as being buggy and of little benefit.   disable it (or uninstall the card completely) and live without it until the intel driver issues are worked out.
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#68 Post by T23_Owner » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:54 pm

erik wrote:
T23_Owner wrote:
I get error on adding script map.

error: One or more of the modules for this handler do not exist in the module list.
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#69 Post by T23_Owner » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:20 pm

ok, fixed the error on script map add. Had to add the isapi module under progams and features under control panel. Now when I look at a php page it says 404.3 error not found. Uhhggg. Pain in the [censored]. Freakin vista.


Description: The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) map policy that is configured on the Web server. The page you requested has a file name extension that is not recognized, and is not allowed.
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#70 Post by T23_Owner » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:37 pm

Ok, looks like I just need to know the MIME type. what would that be? Application/php?
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#71 Post by erik » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:59 pm

T23_Owner wrote:Ok, looks like I just need to know the MIME type. what would that be? Application/php?
have you set the allowed default documents, ie; index.html, index.shtml, index.htm, index.php, etc.?   have you requested an SSI file but not yet installed server-side includes?

sounds like an administrative error and not a "freakin vista" error. :P
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#72 Post by T23_Owner » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:08 pm

erik wrote:
T23_Owner wrote:Ok, looks like I just need to know the MIME type. what would that be? Application/php?
have you set the allowed default documents, ie; index.html, index.shtml, index.htm, index.php, etc.? have you requested an SSI file but not yet installed server-side includes?

sounds like an administrative error and not a "freakin vista" error. :P
No on both, but don't need default docs since I am pointing to actual file. What do you mean request ssi file?
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#73 Post by T23_Owner » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:16 pm

erik wrote:
T23_Owner wrote:Ok, looks like I just need to know the MIME type. what would that be? Application/php?
have you set the allowed default documents, ie; index.html, index.shtml, index.htm, index.php, etc.? have you requested an SSI file but not yet installed server-side includes?

sounds like an administrative error and not a "freakin vista" error. :P
No on both, but don't need default docs since I am pointing to actual file. What do you mean request ssi file?
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#74 Post by T23_Owner » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:26 pm

Got it working. Wierd Had to move the handler mapping up on the list then worked. Found the solution online. Thanks for your help.
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#75 Post by prophecy » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:17 pm

So I think I might have fixed my problem. I turned off Google Desktop (and told it not to start on windows startup) and I swear, it's WAY faster. Now i'm [censored] with Google for putting me through this pain for so long.

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