T23 w/built-in wireless

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newyorkpaulie · #1 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:28 am

Using Linux (freespire 1) my wireless is recognized by my router, but with WinXP no dice. When I insert a PCMCIA wireless card this works fine. Anyone have an idea how I can get the internal one to work? I use a dualboot OS and have to go to Windows sometimes and would prefer to keep it simple.

#2 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:01 am

Well, it sounds like you need the right windows driver. What is the model of the wifi adapter in the T23?

#3 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:52 am

Also depends on what is controlling your wifi, Windows (in that case start the Wireless Zero Configuration Service in Start/Run, type services.msc and click OK) or your specific adapter software or TP Access Connections.

newyorkpaulie · #4 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:12 pm

Harryc wrote:Well, it sounds like you need the right windows driver. What is the model of the wifi adapter in the T23?

How will I locate that?

#5 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:28 pm

Do a warranty lookup here, then after the machine is found, do a parts lookup.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... -WARNTY#sw

newyorkpaulie · #6 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:36 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:Also depends on what is controlling your wifi, Windows (in that case start the Wireless Zero Configuration Service in Start/Run, type services.msc and click OK) or your specific adapter software or TP Access Connections.

I just did this and found that it was running, so I stopped and then restarted this option. Shutdown and restarted Windows and still no soap. I plugged in my PCMCIA and am writing this now using Windows. With Linux I have no probs, but I need Win to run certain programs.

newyorkpaulie · #7 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:47 pm

Harryc wrote:Do a warranty lookup here, then after the machine is found, do a parts lookup.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... -WARNTY#sw

At the Lenovo site I plugged in my model# and got this:

Product: ThinkPad T23 2647-9NU
Original description: PIII-M 1.2GHz (512KB), 128MB RAM, 48.0GB HDD, 14.1 SXGA+(1400x1050) TFT LCD, 8X4X24X CD-RW, 802.11b wireless(MPCI), Modem(MPCI), Ethernet(CDC), IBM Secure Chip, TV out, Li-Ion battery, WinXP Pro

What do I do next? Is this the info you said I needed?

#8 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:03 pm

If you are the original owner, it is a Mini PCI 802.11b/v.92 modem combo card (ACTIONTEC). If you are not the original owner it could be anything. Try running lspci as root in your Linux.

newyorkpaulie · #9 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:26 pm

Harryc wrote:If you are the original owner, it is a Mini PCI 802.11b/v.92 modem combo card (ACTIONTEC). If you are not the original owner it could be anything. Try running lspci as root in your Linux.

Here's what I get:

0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset(rev 01)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wireless 802.11b MiniPCI Adapter
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 0x08 (32 bytes)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale
Also...
I went to the Lenovo site and downloaded the wireless driver for this model.
Ran it, rebooted and no dice. Also, in my Hardware/Devices list I don't find anything listed to fit this item in the Networking section. Strange.

#10 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:45 pm

You have the Actiontec Wireless/Modem-miniPCI-Combo-Card. There is only one driver listed (first link), and it requires a firmware update to be installed first (second link)

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-41929
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-40236

IzaBella · #11 Post by **IzaBella** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:00 pm

The standard 11.b wifi card is not up-to-date conceriing neither speed nor safety. It only runs 11 mbit and WEP and there are programs out there to crack that security. So it is not recommendable... If you insist on using it then only install the driver for it (link in previous answer - and remember that the site can detect your stock configuration..) and let XP do the rest. Actiontec is not working well.

A better solution: Through luck I got an Intel wifi card from a scrapped HP business model (hmm

) took the old card out and although it had 3 cords (suspect the 3rd to be a ground wire) the 2 antenna wires connected perfectly. Went to Intel's site and obtained drivers for that card and my T23 has been running 11.g with WPA2 ever since...

So a standard Intel card should do the trick and they do not cost a fortune out there...

newyorkpaulie · #12 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:14 pm

Harryc wrote:You have the Actiontec Wireless/Modem-miniPCI-Combo-Card. There is only one driver listed (first link), and it requires a firmware update to be installed first (second link)

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-41929
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-40236

So I ran the flash and although the info scrolled by fast I saw device not found - abort go by 4 times.
I ran the driver update anyway and still no dice. Funny, running Linux it finds my WiFi and it runs great. Guess I will stick with the PCMCIA card when I need to run Windows.

newyorkpaulie · #13 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:19 pm

IzaBella wrote:The standard 11.b wifi card is not up-to-date conceriing neither speed nor safety. It only runs 11 mbit and WEP and there are programs out there to crack that security. So it is not recommendable... If you insist on using it then only install the driver for it (link in previous answer - and remember that the site can detect your stock configuration..) and let XP do the rest. Actiontec is not working well.

A better solution: Through luck I got an Intel wifi card from a scrapped HP business model (hmm ) took the old card out and although it had 3 cords (suspect the 3rd to be a ground wire) the 2 antenna wires connected perfectly. Went to Intel's site and obtained drivers for that card and my T23 has been running 11.g with WPA2 ever since...

So a standard Intel card should do the trick and they do not cost a fortune out there...

I am reluctant to go that far, replacing internal hardware, just to accommodate Windows. After all, I use Linux all the time and run Windows Only when I have to. As to updating the driver, that still did not give Windows the power to recognize my WiFi, so I will stick with my present scheme and shove the PCMCIA card in when needed.

#14 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:29 pm

What does Device Manager show, a yellow exclamation mark? Anything?

newyorkpaulie · #15 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:37 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:What does Device Manager show, a yellow exclamation mark? Anything?

Well 2 things are listed: the cable-hookup network and the DLink PCMCIA one, nothing that looks like an internal WiFi.

#16 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:57 pm

Try that card in one of your other T23s and see if they can find it in device manager.
The card might be bad, and therefore not recognized.

newyorkpaulie · #17 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:17 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:Try that card in one of your other T23s and see if they can find it in device manager.
The card might be bad, and therefore not recognized.

Sorry? Try which card? The PCMCIA card works in WinXP, but not Linux,'causeI don't have the Linux software for it. The internal WiFi works in Linux, but not Windows... that's when I need to use the card (which also works in my other PC's (using Windows).

#18 Post by **Harryc** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:48 am

If the internal wifi mPCI card is not showing up in device manager, then I doubt you'll have luck with 'any' driver. Does the modem show up in device manager?

#19 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:38 am

newyorkpaulie wrote:Sorry? Try which card?

I thought we were talking about a problem with an internal wifi card....
At least I am!

newyorkpaulie · #20 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:37 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
newyorkpaulie wrote:Sorry? Try which card?
I thought we were talking about a problem with an internal wifi card....
At least I am!

The internal card works with Linux, but not with Windows. Running WinXP I use a PCMCIA WiFi (D-Link) and this actually works better. It is faster and doesn't hang as does the internal one on some sites using Linux.

newyorkpaulie · #21 Post by **newyorkpaulie** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:37 pm

A better solution: Through luck I got an Intel wifi card from a scrapped HP business model (hmm ) took the old card out and although it had 3 cords (suspect the 3rd to be a ground wire) the 2 antenna wires connected perfectly. Went to Intel's site and obtained drivers for that card and my T23 has been running 11.g with WPA2 ever since...

So a standard Intel card should do the trick and they do not cost a fortune out there...

With the T23's how would I know which card will be interchangeable? I may want to investigate this.

IzaBella · #22 Post by **IzaBella** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:38 am

There are different types of minipci cards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minipci I believe T23 uses the IA type for the slot where wlan card is placed.

As described it works fine with only the two antenna cords connected. But it seems the modem card does not work anymore. So if that is problem - then this way may not be the right way...

Personally I haven't used a modem in 10 years - so I can live with it

How to take it out is shown clearly in the hardware manual that you can find at IBM (or Lenovo...)

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