Wide Viewing Angle on all X60/s, X61/s, is this true?

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Wide Viewing Angle on all X60/s, X61/s, is this true?

#1 Post by bin.dong » Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:21 am

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#2 Post by ryengineer » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:20 pm

No.

You're looking at HMM, please refer to Tabook. (most accurate source of thinkpads).

Only Tablets come with Wide viewing angles.
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#3 Post by bin.dong » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:02 pm

I read it already. I know some of the X61s have the ultralight screen but the book didn't mention that type of screen is wide viewing angle or not?
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#4 Post by ryengineer » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:56 pm

Wide Viewing angles is a term associated with flexview displays that projects minimal to no "washout effect" on moving the screen, thus providing increased viewing angles and improved colour reproduction. It's only available on tablets with AFFS display panel [with SXGA+ (1400x1050) resolution] which is essentially known as IPS or flexview.

X61/X61s do not have it.
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#5 Post by Xtal » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:21 am

The X61 Tablet does have a 1400x1050 wide angle option available. Even if you don't use the tablet features you might want to get it just for the screen.

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#6 Post by bin.dong » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:06 pm

Xtal wrote:The X61 Tablet does have a 1400x1050 wide angle option available.
1024*768 (tablet) models don't have such screen? I saw WVA is available for 1024*768 on www.ibm.com. I am just confused about it, that's why I am asking here.

This is from tabook:

Some: 12.1" (307mm) SXGA+ (1400x1050) color, 190 nits, 4:3, 500:1, 170° viewing,
direct bonding panel (SuperView) for improved outdoor viewability
Touch: 12.1" (307mm) XGA (1024x768) TFT color, 4:3, 150 nits, 170° viewing /
MultiView (indoor/outdoor), MultiTouch (touchscreen via fi nger and pen)
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#7 Post by erik » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:10 pm

bin.dong wrote:Some: 12.1" (307mm) SXGA+ (1400x1050) color, 190 nits, 4:3, 500:1, 170° viewing,
direct bonding panel (SuperView) for improved outdoor viewability
Touch: 12.1" (307mm) XGA (1024x768) TFT color, 4:3, 150 nits, 170° viewing /
MultiView (indoor/outdoor), MultiTouch (touchscreen via fi nger and pen)
you've answered your own question.

170° is about as wide as it gets.   average panels are only about 130° (+/- 65°) horizontal and 100° (+/- 50°) vertical.
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#8 Post by dr_st » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:19 pm

erik wrote:170° is about as wide as it gets.   average panels are only about 130° (+/- 65°) horizontal and 100° (+/- 50°) vertical.
IPS does get all the way to 180° (manufacturers usually state 176°/178°). I find it interesting that Lenovo only writes 170°, when BOE-Hydis (the manufacturer of these Tablet panels) states a full 180° in their spec.

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#9 Post by pibach » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:27 pm

180° ? LOL

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#10 Post by erik » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:42 pm

dr_st wrote:
erik wrote:170° is about as wide as it gets. average panels are only about 130° (+/- 65°) horizontal and 100° (+/- 50°) vertical.
IPS does get all the way to 180° (manufacturers usually state 176°/178°). I find it interesting that Lenovo only writes 170°, when BOE-Hydis (the manufacturer of these Tablet panels) states a full 180° in their spec.
i said 'about as wide as it gets' simply because the OP didn't seem to understand how wide 170° really is so it didn't make sense to go into much more detail than that. ;)
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