T 42 shut down

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ASIS975 · #1 Post by **ASIS975** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:25 am

hello my t42 thinkpad shut down after it get so hot under neath the mouse pad, why its getting so hot underneath the mousepad only, it wasn't like this before and here is error code it gives me

Details
Product: Windows Operating System
ID: 1003
Source: System Error
Version: 5.2
Symbolic Name: ER_KRNLCRASH_LOG
Message: Error code %1, parameter1 %2, parameter2 %3, parameter3 %4, parameter4 %5.

Explanation
A blue screen (Stop error) was reported. The message contains details about the error. A matching event with Event ID 1001 might also appear in the event log. This matching event displays information about the specific error that occurred.

0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 39 0000009
0020: 36 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d 6 Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 38 32 eters 82
0030: 30 62 34 35 30 30 2c 20 0b4500,
0038: 38 30 35 36 31 38 61 30 805618a0
0040: 2c 20 38 30 35 36 31 38 , 805618
0048: 61 30 2c 20 66 38 33 31 a0, f831
0050: 35 33 39 38 5398

this happens to me couple weeks a go to and when i call ibm they told that my harddirve is crashing so they send me the new harddrive and after i install the harddrive it was working good but today it carsh again and when i try to turn on by it self it puts in rescue and recovery why is this things happen please explain me so i can take the step
thank you

#2 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:28 am

Install TPFanControl and note the highest GPU, CPU temperatures and fan speed recorded while running a CPU intensive program, like watching a DVD. Post them here.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/tp4xfancontrol/

ASIS975 · #3 Post by **ASIS975** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:40 am

Harryc wrote:Install TPFanControl and note the highest GPU, CPU temperatures and fan speed recorded while running a CPU intensive program, like watching a DVD. Post them here.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/tp4xfancontrol/

so install this

tpfancontrol_v018b ????

#4 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:45 am

Yes. It's a zip file, so download it and unzip it to a folder. Then in that folder run the fancontrol.exe.

ASIS975 · #5 Post by **ASIS975** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:07 am

Harryc wrote:Yes. It's a zip file, so download it and unzip it to a folder. Then in that folder run the fancontrol.exe.

i tried to install it but it wont let me install it and here is the log of that
[11/26/2007 7:01:37 AM] Current Config:
[11/26/2007 7:01:37 AM] Active= 0, Cycle= 5, FanBeep= 1200 30, MaxReadErrors= 10
[11/26/2007 7:01:37 AM] IconLevels= 50 55 60, IgnoreSensors= XXX,YYY,ZZZ
[11/26/2007 7:01:37 AM] Levels= 47°C -> 0, 50°C -> 3, 55°C -> 4, 60°C -> 7, 70°C -> 0x80

and it says Error during initialization of Winio Driver.
(winio.sys missing in app folder or fail to load)

#6 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:50 am

Well, is the file winio.sys in the folder with the tpfancontrol.exe file, and did you execute tpfancontrol from that folder?

ASIS975 · #7 Post by **ASIS975** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:58 am

Harryc wrote:Well, is the file winio.sys in the folder with the tpfancontrol.exe file, and did you execute tpfancontrol from that folder?

when i extract the main folder this is what i got

fancontrol
fancontorl txt
readme_deutsch
winio systemfile
fancontrol config settings
readme txt
t42 pic
winio.dll

and i install the the first one and its running in the task bar right know

ASIS975 · #8 Post by **ASIS975** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:20 am

ASIS975 wrote:
Harryc wrote:Well, is the file winio.sys in the folder with the tpfancontrol.exe file, and did you execute tpfancontrol from that folder?
when i extract the main folder this is what i got

fancontrol
fancontorl txt
readme_deutsch
winio systemfile
fancontrol config settings
readme txt
t42 pic
winio.dll

and i install the the first one and its running in the task bar right know

ok this is what i got so far i don't no how to execute the folder that you told me in above post

CPU 64°C (0x78)
APS 49°C (0x79)
PCM 33°C (0x7a)
GPU 54°C (0x7b)
BAT 36°C (0x7c)
BAT 26°C (0x7e)
BUS 0°C (0xc0)
PCI 0°C (0xc1)
PWR 0°C (0xc2)

Fan Speed 3597 RPM
let me know if you need something else thank you

#9 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:29 am

OK, now watch a DVD and tell me what these temperatures go up to.

CPU 64°C (0x78)
GPU 54°C (0x7b)

If you don't have a DVD, run a CPU intensive program like SuperPI for 10 minutes or so - http://www.overclock.net/attachments/do ... per-pi.zip

ASIS975 · #10 Post by **ASIS975** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:53 am

Harryc wrote:OK, now watch a DVD and tell me what these temperatures go up to.

CPU 64°C (0x78)
GPU 54°C (0x7b)

If you don't have a DVD, run a CPU intensive program like SuperPI for 10 minutes or so - http://www.overclock.net/attachments/do ... per-pi.zip

actually thats with watching dvd, but i haven't watch enough i watch it till 10 min and i got this temperature do you want me to watch it for like more then 10 min ?

#11 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:35 am

Yeah, let it run for awhile ..

ASIS975 · #12 Post by **ASIS975** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:43 am

Harryc wrote:Yeah, let it run for awhile ..

ok this is what i got when watching the dvd

CPU 52°C (0x78)
APS 43°C (0x79)
PCM 30°C (0x7a)
GPU 47°C (0x7b)
BAT 32°C (0x7c)
BAT 29°C (0x7e)
BUS 0°C (0xc0)
PCI 0°C (0xc1)
PWR 0°C (0xc2)
XC3 0°C (0xc3)

if this is not the case then what could be it bcuz i can fell the heat and its hot right under the mousepad it was not getting hot at all before but now i can fell it, if this laptop on my lap i have to remove it cuz my lap getting so hot, do you think there must be the dust in side the fan some where, maybe its not breathing right, maybe went is blocked from insie. if i have to open the laptop to clean the fan and all went please send me the pic or something so i can open it up and clean it up rather then sending the laptop to ezserve . thanks

#13 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:57 am

Directly underneath the touchpad/Palm Rest is a minipci card for your wireless. You could try removing it to see if the crashes reoccur. I'd also run a full batch of diagnostics on the machine starting with PC-Doctor, a diagnostic from the hard drive manufacturer, and Memtest86. Your problem is not CPU/GPU heat related or cooling of those components. In fact your machine is running cool for a T42 if you ask me.

ASIS975 · #14 Post by **ASIS975** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:15 am

Harryc wrote:Directly underneath the touchpad/Palm Rest is a minipci card for your wireless. You could try removing it to see if the crashes reoccur. I'd also run a full batch of diagnostics on the machine starting with PC-Doctor, a diagnostic from the hard drive manufacturer, and Memtest86. Your problem is not CPU/GPU heat related or cooling of those components. In fact your machine is running cool for a T42 if you ask me.

ok how do i run the pc doctor from hdd and can you please chek ur pm i sent you a message yesterday ....and how do i run memtest86. can you plese explain me.... i am sorry i am not that good in this computer

#15 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:34 am

Just install PC-Doctor 5 and run it. Installation instructions are at the link. Ref. you PM request...I don't give out my IM ID's or phone number. OK with you?

Run it from windows -
PC-Doctor for Windows

Run it from DOS on diskette -
PC-Doctor for DOS

ASIS975 · #16 Post by **ASIS975** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:37 am

Harryc wrote:Just install PC-Doctor 5 and run it. Installation instructions are at the link. Ref. you PM request...I don't give out my IM ID's or phone number. OK with you?

Run it from windows -
PC-Doctor for Windows

Run it from DOS on diskette -
PC-Doctor for DOS

do i have to run from the windows or dos there is 2 link

#17 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:39 am

ASIS975 wrote:do i have to run from the windows or dos there is 2 link

Your choice. Windows would be easier.

ASIS975 · #18 Post by **ASIS975** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:45 am

Harryc wrote:
ASIS975 wrote:do i have to run from the windows or dos there is 2 link
Your choice. Windows would be easier.

ok and what kind a diagnostics test should run there is no full diagnostics test in there ...it says audio,video,communications,storage,other device,and system which one shoulod run from this .

#19 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:44 am

Run all of them. There should be an option to run them all at once...I'd guess the system option.

ASIS975 · #20 Post by **ASIS975** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:48 am

Harryc wrote:Run all of them. There should be an option to run them all at once...I'd guess the system option.

i run all of them and system pass in all of them... but it still shutting down by it self with same erroe code. i have no idea why its shutting down .... should i call ibm ? and have them trouble shoot it .

#21 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:17 am

Directly underneath the touchpad/Palm Rest is a minipci card for your wireless. You could try removing it to see if the crashes reoccur. If you don't feel comfortable doing that call Lenovo.

FTC · #22 Post by **FTC** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:02 am

Hi,

With the data you posted the [censored] do not look like heat related. I'd guess they are either RAM or WiFi related. Do what HarryC says, or if yours have 2 memory dimms, tray removing one at a time... if the system still hangs.

Do not trust *that much* on the memory test programs. There are memory problems that do not appear with such programs or need too many loops before detected.

ASIS975 · #23 Post by **ASIS975** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:13 am

Harryc wrote:Directly underneath the touchpad/Palm Rest is a minipci card for your wireless. You could try removing it to see if the crashes reoccur. If you don't feel comfortable doing that call Lenovo.

ok this is what i did so far.
what is the right teperature for cpu that need to be set in tpfancontrol .. this is what i modify it.

Level=52 0
Level=54 3
Level=56 4
Level=60 7
Level=70 128
do i need to remodify the temerature on above line ?

and after i did this. here is the teperature
Fan: 0x80 / Highest: 46°C (46 41 29 42 31 n/a 26 n/a 0 0 0 0)

i let it run in Bios Mode. not in smart mode .
thank you for all kind of help ..

#24 Post by **Harryc** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:48 am

You don't have a temperature problem. Directly underneath the touchpad/Palm Rest is a minipci card for your wireless. You could try removing it to see if the crashes reoccur. If you don't feel comfortable doing that call Lenovo.

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