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Would you suggest going back to XPPro?
see also
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... sta#362662
mod edit: moved to windows forum as this is not T6x-series specific.
see also
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... sta#362662
mod edit: moved to windows forum as this is not T6x-series specific.
T61 T7300 15.4" WSXGA+ 240Gb 3GB
Z61m T2300 15.4" WXGA+ 80Gb 3GB
T20 800 14" 20Gb
Z61m T2300 15.4" WXGA+ 80Gb 3GB
T20 800 14" 20Gb
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mattbiernat
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Re: Back to XPP
i have installed Vista on my T60 and i used it for 2 or 3 months. the things that i couldn't stand about this operating system was:
-usless explorer (and i couldn't get used to any freeware/shareware alternatives)
-poor quality graphics for classic theme
-disorganized menus
i really don't understand why they couldn't make TRUE classic theme for Vista. Windows XP has one and so does Windows 98...
other things are the usual driver issues, overall slowness, etc - but these will be fixed eventually
I might stick with XP until another Windows OS comes out.
-usless explorer (and i couldn't get used to any freeware/shareware alternatives)
-poor quality graphics for classic theme
-disorganized menus
i really don't understand why they couldn't make TRUE classic theme for Vista. Windows XP has one and so does Windows 98...
other things are the usual driver issues, overall slowness, etc - but these will be fixed eventually
I might stick with XP until another Windows OS comes out.
Your poll is missing an option, so I won't vote, but I'll relay my response via text.
I specifically ordered my ThinkPad with XP Professional installed. One of the reasons that I bought a ThinkPad is because it was available with XP Pro.
Most laptop vendors these days are selling machines pre-configured with Vista (at least at the retail level), and I specifically wanted to avoid Vista. In retrospect, I am very happy with my choice.
I specifically ordered my ThinkPad with XP Professional installed. One of the reasons that I bought a ThinkPad is because it was available with XP Pro.
Most laptop vendors these days are selling machines pre-configured with Vista (at least at the retail level), and I specifically wanted to avoid Vista. In retrospect, I am very happy with my choice.
Roadster
W520, 4270-CTO, Win7 Pro 64, i7-2860QM, Quadro 2000M, FHD 95% Gamut, Blu-Ray, SDD + HDD
T500, 2055-CTO, Win7 Pro 32, T9600, Mob Rad 3650, WSXGA+, Blu-Ray, Dual HDDs
T60p, 8741-W1C, WinXP 32, T7400, FireGL v5250, WSXGA+, DVD Multi, Dual HDDs
W520, 4270-CTO, Win7 Pro 64, i7-2860QM, Quadro 2000M, FHD 95% Gamut, Blu-Ray, SDD + HDD
T500, 2055-CTO, Win7 Pro 32, T9600, Mob Rad 3650, WSXGA+, Blu-Ray, Dual HDDs
T60p, 8741-W1C, WinXP 32, T7400, FireGL v5250, WSXGA+, DVD Multi, Dual HDDs
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agarza
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I installed Vista on my T42p machine and after 1 day of usage I really didn't like it at all:
1. Takes huge amount of RAM (I game sometimes and only have 1G of RAM)
2. Flickering problem (Is solved using a software program but don't remember the name)
3. Incompatibility issues
4. My CPU works harder than in XP and the fan runs much more
5. TPFanControl does not work, and don't like the ACPI feature in NHC to control the fan
Waiting SP3 for XP
1. Takes huge amount of RAM (I game sometimes and only have 1G of RAM)
2. Flickering problem (Is solved using a software program but don't remember the name)
3. Incompatibility issues
4. My CPU works harder than in XP and the fan runs much more
5. TPFanControl does not work, and don't like the ACPI feature in NHC to control the fan
Waiting SP3 for XP
Current
T440p: Core i7-4710MQ|8GB RAM|Intel SSD S3700 200GB | 14.1" IPS FHD | Windows 7 Pro, T450 Trackpad, Backlit keyboard, 2nd Caddy
Past: T420 HD+, X61s XGA, T61 14" SXGA+, T42p 14.1 SXGA+, T30, A22e
T440p: Core i7-4710MQ|8GB RAM|Intel SSD S3700 200GB | 14.1" IPS FHD | Windows 7 Pro, T450 Trackpad, Backlit keyboard, 2nd Caddy
Past: T420 HD+, X61s XGA, T61 14" SXGA+, T42p 14.1 SXGA+, T30, A22e
I bought a new machine yesterday. I practically had to beg them not to send me a Vista machine. I know MS needs to sell software, but "fixing" XPP is fixing something that ain't broke - - and works quite nicely 
T30 2366-85U
T43 2668-4DU
R60e 0657-3ZU
T61 7663-2EU
T420 4178-6VU
E420 1141-BTU
G570 4334-4QU
Acer Aspire 1430
Gateway Solo9300
T43 2668-4DU
R60e 0657-3ZU
T61 7663-2EU
T420 4178-6VU
E420 1141-BTU
G570 4334-4QU
Acer Aspire 1430
Gateway Solo9300
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mattbiernat
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The simple fact that it's in the "Windows OS" forum rather than the "Windows Vista" may be limiting the poll sample. Lots of Vista users probably don't even check this forum if there is a "Vista" forum listed right beneath it in the directory.mattbiernat wrote:we all know that these kind of polls are not accurate but giving overall unenthusiastic reception of Vista I don't think it's too far off.
Roadster
W520, 4270-CTO, Win7 Pro 64, i7-2860QM, Quadro 2000M, FHD 95% Gamut, Blu-Ray, SDD + HDD
T500, 2055-CTO, Win7 Pro 32, T9600, Mob Rad 3650, WSXGA+, Blu-Ray, Dual HDDs
T60p, 8741-W1C, WinXP 32, T7400, FireGL v5250, WSXGA+, DVD Multi, Dual HDDs
W520, 4270-CTO, Win7 Pro 64, i7-2860QM, Quadro 2000M, FHD 95% Gamut, Blu-Ray, SDD + HDD
T500, 2055-CTO, Win7 Pro 32, T9600, Mob Rad 3650, WSXGA+, Blu-Ray, Dual HDDs
T60p, 8741-W1C, WinXP 32, T7400, FireGL v5250, WSXGA+, DVD Multi, Dual HDDs
It´s a funny story how I came to Vista. In the past I had a lot of software issues with my system running XP Pro so I was told by a Lenovo tech to ask Lenovo to send me the recovery DVD set for my system to do a factory restore. So I did and they sent me a set for Vista, not XP. I was a little bit upset after reading a plenty of bad feedbacks and even worse comments on Vista...But as I didn´t have any other alternative, I did a factory restore with the Vista DVDs. For my own surprise my system has been running like a charm since: much faster than with XP, all Lenovo apps I need are running much better now, not even a single BSOD (only one freeze when I installed the third-party application 3D Desktop which made it necessairy to reinstall the whole system), much more stable overall. For some reason Matlab can utilize more memory under Vista than XP (although I thought only R2007 can properly run under Vista) and I have about 85 processes running in the background after startup, just everything what I need, and nevertheless Vista boots faster with those 85 than my XP with 55... I think most people complain about Vista because it´s possibly not as good as expected, still, I think, it´s not such a monster
People just don´t like changes and, certainly, there is actually no direct reason why to make any changes ot a well runnig system.
Cheers
Marin
EDIT: And I do like the visual effects of Vista
Cheers
Marin
EDIT: And I do like the visual effects of Vista
IBM Lenovo Z61p | 15.4'' WUXGA | Intel Core 2 Duo T7400 2x 2.16GHz | 4 GB Kingston HyperX | Hitachi 7K500 500 GB + WD 1TB (USB) | ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 | ThinkPad Atheros a/b/g | Analog Devices AD1981HD | Win 7 x86 + ArchLinux 2009.08 x64 (number crunching)
I am switching back to XP Pro, but my experience with Vista was quite positive -- the only reason I'm switching is for compatibility, because there are a number of specialized programs and tools that I used that are not yet compatible with Vista.
I was underwhelmed by Vista's much-touted search function (yes it finds files instantly but I don't see any way to preview them like I can in, say, Google Desktop or X1 Search), and there are a number of features that seem a bit rough around the edges, but overall I found it an improvement over XP and I'd go back to it in the future, no question. But for the next few years at least it's back to XP.
The best thing is that XP is likely to scream on my new Vista-optimized ThinkCentre compared with how it runs on my T42.
I was underwhelmed by Vista's much-touted search function (yes it finds files instantly but I don't see any way to preview them like I can in, say, Google Desktop or X1 Search), and there are a number of features that seem a bit rough around the edges, but overall I found it an improvement over XP and I'd go back to it in the future, no question. But for the next few years at least it's back to XP.
The best thing is that XP is likely to scream on my new Vista-optimized ThinkCentre compared with how it runs on my T42.
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