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A31p with Vista - Please Comment

#1 Post by cmarti » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:50 am

Who has a A31p that's running vista?
What are you impressions on the performance?

I am in the middle of the upgrade and would like to know the experience of others running vista on a A31p.

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#2 Post by Robbyrobot » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:47 am

Might help to change your subject to something like "A31p with Vista - Please Comment" since "Question" doesn't really say anything and people might easily overlook it.

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#3 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:09 am

Good luck with this...Vista ran very poorly on my T42p, so I can only see it doing a lot worse on A31p...
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#4 Post by cmarti » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:30 am

Robbyrobot wrote:Might help to change your subject to something like "A31p with Vista - Please Comment" since "Question" doesn't really say anything and people might easily overlook it.
Thanks for the idea! Subject changed.
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#5 Post by cmarti » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:33 am

ajkula66 wrote:Good luck with this...Vista ran very poorly on my T42p, so I can only see it doing a lot worse on A31p...
Thanks for the reply!

Strange , because it run just fine on a T40 that i had specs:

Machine type: 2373-75U

CPU 2.10ghz
2gb ram
100gb 7k100
128mb video board.


Reason i remove it was because the programs i use at work were not compatible with vista, something i manage to overcome now changing some settings.
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#6 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:22 am

T42p that I've been referring to resembles your "custom" T40 in all respects but the CPU - yours is faster.

I guess it's the one's opinion of what the term "runs well" represents. Vista has been sluggish in all video aspects on my machine.

But, given the challenge...I just might install it on one of my A31p oldies...God knows I've got enough of them to be able to risk throwing one against the wall when I get upset with Vista...
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#7 Post by cmarti » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:25 pm

ajkula66 wrote: But, given the challenge...I just might install it on one of my A31p oldies...God knows I've got enough of them to be able to risk throwing one against the wall when I get upset with Vista...
I got it running vista now... It's SLOWWWWWW..... But it's ok let's see how much time I can tolerate this. :lol:
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#8 Post by FrankK-F » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:47 pm

Some weeks ago I was talking to tech support about my A31p problems (very slow, HDD light almost always ON, etc. a progressive performance deterioration over the several previous weeks). While waiting for some process to complete on my machine we talked about op-sys update/upgrade.

His comment was that Vista systems in TPs so far were disappointing ... sluggish and resource hogs. However he spoke very favorably about WXP-SP3 .. it should run 10% faster.

Another point is that MS has a compatibility evaluation applet for Vista. I downloaded it ... and according to it my A31p (2GHz and 2GB memory) does not have enough resources for Vista. Period.

So, you guessed it, I am opting for SP3.

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#9 Post by mgo » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:57 pm

cmarti wrote:
ajkula66 wrote: But, given the challenge...I just might install it on one of my A31p oldies...God knows I've got enough of them to be able to risk throwing one against the wall when I get upset with Vista...
I got it running vista now... It's SLOWWWWWW..... But it's ok let's see how much time I can tolerate this. :lol:
I'm running Vista on a R52, T43p and a T60. Vista runs reasonably fast on all of them because I run it in "Classic" mode, both on the desktop and in Windows Explorer. This gets rid of the useless clutter. Dump the Sidebar, too.

Another tip I read recently is to give yourself more virtual memory. Manually set it to 3000 meg min and 4000 meg max. This seems excessive, but it appears Vista likes this better than a minimal amount, even if you have plenty of RAM.

Ditch the silly busy desktop wallpapers and other visual hogs for improved performance.

Also, give Vista some time to "learn" your habits, and it will adjust Super Fetch to improve things.

Vista paints a much easier on the eye screen, which I my main reason for running it. Text, etc looks less jaggy. Even with Clear Type, XP never looked this good.

No, I am not a Microsoft fanboi, but I do like much of what they do with Office and some other applications. As always, some of MS products are pretty good, and some are pretty awful. They sure need more supervision and consistency over there in Redmond.

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#10 Post by cmarti » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:08 pm

Wow!

Great info, thanks guys.
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#11 Post by cmarti » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:50 am

I give up!

I put back the Xp pro to the A31p because it was a painfully SLOW with vista.

(Even my daughter X31 w/1.4ghz and 768mb of ram is running faster with vista than the A31p)

It was fun but didn't work.
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#12 Post by mediasponge » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:34 pm

I looked into doing this on my A31p. The upgrade advisor program clearly states that the "Aero" interface would not be supported on this graphics chip (FireGL 7800). The Ati support page does not have Vista drivers for it. Since Aero is one of the "nice" things about Vista, I will keep it on XP Pro and wait for the production release of SP3.

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