T61p with Vista and sudden slow internet

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wgleich · #1 Post by **wgleich** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:48 am

Folks,

I got a new T61p with Vista Home Premium loaded just before xmas. 2.4ghz and 2gb ram. Out of the box the internet on wireless using Firefox or IE was slow. After poking around for a bit I found the power management settings on the wireless card was set to converse battery so I changed it to Max Performance the that immediately fixed the problem. Recently, the machine got slow again for internet on wireless only. This morning I tried to use a restore point from when I knew the machine was fast and that ran but said it was unsuccessful. BTW, my T30 sitting next to the T61p runs fine on same site same time. I think that maybe the Thinkvantage is causeing a problem but before I dig deep and remove things I am looking for opinions. I am close to downgrading to XP if this keeps occuring. Below is the build specs if that helps.

Thanks,

Warren

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41W2063 VBB 2GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 2DIMM
42V8193 SBB INTEL TURBO MEMORY 1GB
42V8177 SBB INT.WIRE.WIFI/LINK4965AGN
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
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42X1483 SBB BLUETOOTH SCREW
42V8631 SBB 15WSXGAW/BTW/OWWANW/OUWB
39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED MODEM
42V8658 SBB CL.PLATE T61P WL BLTH
42V8607 SBB INT.WLAN ANTENNA 15.4"
42V8605 SBB NO INT.WWAN ANTENNA 15.4"R
42V8601 SBB NO UWB ANTENNA
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42V8300 SBB 1GB PC2-5300 DDR2 667MHZ

SHoTTa35 · #2 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:43 am

hmm, are you using access connections for wireless? How about you remove it and just let Vista handle it. Also what about drivers, you have the ABGN card so check to see if there's anything for that.

wgleich · #3 Post by **wgleich** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:32 pm

SHoTTa35 wrote:hmm, are you using access connections for wireless? How about you remove it and just let Vista handle it. Also what about drivers, you have the ABGN card so check to see if there's anything for that.

Thanks much for the suggestion. I went and looked for a new driver via Vista device manager and it said it was the latest and greatest. On a chance I rolled back to a previous version and the problem now appears to be gone. I am at the public library which supports "G" networks so I won't know till I am home on my lowely "B" network.

I will post a followup in case people are searching.

Best regards,

Warren

tylerwylie · #4 Post by **tylerwylie** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:37 pm

wgleich wrote:
SHoTTa35 wrote:hmm, are you using access connections for wireless? How about you remove it and just let Vista handle it. Also what about drivers, you have the ABGN card so check to see if there's anything for that.
Thanks much for the suggestion. I went and looked for a new driver via Vista device manager and it said it was the latest and greatest. On a chance I rolled back to a previous version and the problem now appears to be gone. I am at the public library which supports "G" networks so I won't know till I am home on my lowely "B" network.

I will post a followup in case people are searching.

Best regards,

Warren

People still use B at home?

wgleich · #5 Post by **wgleich** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:41 pm

tylerwylie wrote:
wgleich wrote: Thanks much for the suggestion. I went and looked for a new driver via Vista device manager and it said it was the latest and greatest. On a chance I rolled back to a previous version and the problem now appears to be gone. I am at the public library which supports "G" networks so I won't know till I am home on my lowely "B" network.

I will post a followup in case people are searching.

Best regards,

Warren
People still use B at home?

You made me laugh out loud in the library and I got the scowl from the librarian. Ah yes. At home we basically surf and it has been fine for that. Although now I have experienced "g" speed I will be [censored] about it all night.

tylerwylie · #6 Post by **tylerwylie** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:45 pm

My job is done haha. I remember when I was at home and we made the transition from B to G. It was pretty much a chorus of angels, etcetera.

SHoTTa35 · #7 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:50 pm

even if all you do is browse internet then G will help

If you have a nice fast cable modem and only using .11B you'll be stuck waiting on pages to load because of the still slow downloads.

I'm sure you probably noticed your pages poped up faster when you were at the library

wgleich · #8 Post by **wgleich** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:58 pm

I have these old bomb proof Cisco cards that are "b" cards only. I am running four laptops around the house right now and two tivo's on the wireless. Now the Tivo's have b/g usb cards but I will need to replace the Cisco cards in addition to the Access point. As I understand any "B" traffic will cause the network to slow to "b" speed even though they are "g" devices. Am I correct in that understanding?

The can of worms have been opened....

Warren

SHoTTa35 · #9 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:25 pm

correcto

Unless you get a N router which you probably should instead of buying a G one. No point in getting G if N is coming now.

brucegiord · #10 Post by **brucegiord** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:45 pm

SHoTTa35 wrote:even if all you do is browse internet then G will help If you have a nice fast cable modem and only using .11B you'll be stuck waiting on pages to load because of the still slow downloads.

I'm sure you probably noticed your pages poped up faster when you were at the library

Just to add an opposing point of view, I don't see how using a 'G' rather than 'B' wireless card will make much of a difference when it comes to Internet access. If your "nice fast" cable modem is only sending you data at 4 mbs, it doesn't make much difference whether your wireless connection is 11 mbs or 54 mbs. Your cable connection is the limiting factor.
- Bruce

tylerwylie · #11 Post by **tylerwylie** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:06 pm

brucegiord wrote:
SHoTTa35 wrote:even if all you do is browse internet then G will help If you have a nice fast cable modem and only using .11B you'll be stuck waiting on pages to load because of the still slow downloads.

I'm sure you probably noticed your pages poped up faster when you were at the library
Just to add an opposing point of view, I don't see how using a 'G' rather than 'B' wireless card will make much of a difference when it comes to Internet access. If your "nice fast" cable modem is only sending you data at 4 mbs, it doesn't make much difference whether your wireless connection is 11 mbs or 54 mbs. Your cable connection is the limiting factor.
- Bruce

Theoretically, yes.

In practice you'll see much more throughput via G over B.

mike20030405 · #12 Post by **mike20030405** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:05 pm

sometimes you need to check if you happended set the phishing/spam filter in the browser, especially IE.

T61p with Vista and sudden slow internet

T61p with Vista and sudden slow internet

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