Do any other Thinkpads have the keyboard light?

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Padhead · #1 Post by **Padhead** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:49 pm

Do any other Thinkpads have the keyboard light? I am Tseries junkie for years, but I have never owned any other Thinkpads

I am thinking of buying smaller, used, beater machine to keep in my motorcycle.

slagmi · #2 Post by **slagmi** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:16 pm

To the best of my knowledge, all do.
Only one I'm not 100% sure of is the G40, sad since I owned one once...

Yandar · #3 Post by **Yandar** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:07 pm

I believe that all A,R, T,X,Z and I series which it was first introduced, have it. It is known that none of the tablet versions have one.

Thinkwiki.org is a good site for historical info.

Padhead · #4 Post by **Padhead** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:20 pm

Are there any thinkpads made with a 12 inch screen and a keyboard light?

I am looking for something cheap that can handle at least a gig of ram, has a keyboard light. Must have a PC card slot or express card slot for the EVDO card. A nine cell battery would be cool as well.

Are there any older Tpads that fit this bill?

joester · #5 Post by **joester** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:39 pm

If 1GB RAM is the qualifier, you want one of the following...

A30 or A31
Any G series
Any T series, T23 or higher
Any X series, X30 or higher
Any Z series

Joe

ajkula66 · #6 Post by **ajkula66** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:53 pm

And let's not forget R series, with R40 and all the subsequent models...

If you're looking for a 12" machine, your best bet is X30 that will handle a gig of RAM but can be found dirt cheap nowadays.

Padhead · #7 Post by **Padhead** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:26 pm

I didn't realize that there was this many to choose from.

Which ones have this?

At least a gig of ram.

keyboard light.

12 inch screen. I guess 13 inch would work

Must have PC card or express card slot

A nine cell battery or ultrabay would be cool as well.

Are there any older Tpads that fit this bill?

taob · #8 Post by **taob** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:07 pm

Padhead wrote:Are there any older Tpads that fit this bill?

Yes, there are.

All the specs are here in one spot for your convenience:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Hardware_Specifications

Padhead · #9 Post by **Padhead** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:10 pm

if anyone could recommend a machine, I'd appreciate it

aiiee · #10 Post by **aiiee** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:15 pm

My old X31 hd 1GB of ram, a 12" screen, and the thinklight. In 5 years the only thing I replaced was the keyboard ($20 on ebay ) . The screen was getting dim though, and they go for around $300 on ebay. Nice machine, but the screen was dimming rapidly after 5 years.

ajkula66 · #11 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:36 am

If you can explain why you need a gig of RAM for something that you'll be carrying around on a bike...

Get a X22/23/24, these will only take 640Mb of RAM, but are fast enough in XP, well built (much better than X3x IMHO), can be found with internal wireless and/or BT and won't run you more than $200-225...

Just my $0.02...

Padhead · #12 Post by **Padhead** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:00 am

Those X series look like the solution for me, good advice.

However, the X series doesnt have a Mouse pad. So it won't work for me.

Any other sugesstions?

#13 Post by **ryengineer** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:35 am

Padhead wrote:snip.....However, the X series doesnt have a Mouse pad......snip

X300 has Ultranav.

Padhead · #14 Post by **Padhead** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:35 am

Padhead wrote:I am thinking of buying smaller, used, beater machine to keep in my motorcycle.

The X300 doesn't qualify as a "used, beater machine." At least not until I hit Lotto. Which I am sure I am going to any week now.

#15 Post by **ryengineer** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:48 am

Padhead wrote:The X300 doesn't qualify as a "used, beater machine." At least not until I hit Lotto. Which I am sure I am going to any week now.

You would need to compromise on your requirements then.

After I-series, IBM started to include Thinklight on all series except the tablets and G-series.

Many R-series thinkpads also come with UltraNav and Thinklight.

Padhead · #16 Post by **Padhead** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:27 pm

ryengineer wrote:
Padhead wrote:Many R-series thinkpads also come with UltraNav and Thinklight.

are there any r seies with 12 or 13 screen?

#17 Post by **ryengineer** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:07 pm

Padhead wrote:are there any r seies with 12 or 13 screen?

No there aren't, at the same time I don't think there was ever a thinkpad with an UltraNav in 12'' or 13'' screen except X300.

You should reconsider your demands.

lightweight · #18 Post by **lightweight** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:59 am

Or reconsider your T30. Is UltraNav more important than a smaller screen and lighter weight?

Aroc · #19 Post by **Aroc** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:33 pm

Smallest screen to fit your requirements is a 14 inch T4x, if you must have a touchpad. The X2x and X3x are a better fit if you can train yourself get used to the trackpoint and how to use its force-based acceleration (this seems to confuse most new users, and quite understandably so!). The trackpoint in the hands of an experienced user can be very quick and precise, but this is a personal choice.

Also consider the 12 inch Dell Latitude D400. These are cheap business class Pentium M systems that have a touchpad and take 2GB of RAM.

T22 4me · #20 Post by **T22 4me** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:12 pm

Also consider the 12 inch Dell Latitude D400. These are cheap business class Pentium M systems that have a touchpad and take 2GB of RAM.

Thats sacrilege

Reconsider Thinkpad options if you want a reliable "beater"
IMHO

berlin · #21 Post by **berlin** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:35 am

no light here
600E

jamiphar · #22 Post by **jamiphar** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:55 am

My 600X has a retrofitted ThinkLight. Here are a few quick photos I took with my phone:

600X
closeup
ThinkLight switch

If you're willing to do some adventurous modding, the 600X may be the laptop for you.

vanaya · #23 Post by **vanaya** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:53 am

R30 and R31 did come in 13.3 and 14.1, just no ultranav. Here is the Overview - TP R30 and Overview - TP R31. They both have thinklights, ultrabay plus, and will take 1gb RAM. Big downside is 1.1usb!

#24 Post by **gator** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:13 am

jamiphar wrote:My 600X has a retrofitted ThinkLight. Here are a few quick photos I took with my phone:

James, that looks great. How did you do this?

ajkula66 · #25 Post by **ajkula66** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:04 pm

vanaya wrote:

R30 and R31 did come in 13.3 and 14.1, just no ultranav. Here is the Overview - TP R30 and Overview - TP R31 . They both have thinklights, ultrabay plus, and will take 1gb RAM. Big downside is 1.1usb!

Not all of R30s will take a gig of RAM. Secondly, why just not buy a T23 then which is a much better built machine?

jamiphar · #26 Post by **jamiphar** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:18 am

gator wrote:James, that looks great. How did you do this?

I basically took the 5v power from the USB port, put it through a 100ohm resistor and a switch, and ran two wires up to the 1.8mm LEDs that I installed into the bezel (I drilled holes and hot-glued the LEDs to the inside). Here are some better photos:

Wiring path
Better photo of the switch

#27 Post by **gator** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:38 pm

James, once I save enough money, I am going to send my 600X to you for upgrades

awong · #28 Post by **awong** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:12 am

vanaya wrote:R30 and R31 did come in 13.3 and 14.1, just no ultranav. Here is the Overview - TP R30 and Overview - TP R31. They both have thinklights, ultrabay plus, and will take 1gb RAM. Big downside is 1.1usb!

the r31 13.3 in screen is in a 14.1 shape laptop

vanaya · #29 Post by **vanaya** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:58 pm

I haven't played much with the R30 that I do have. I can't see the external monitor and haven't had much time to fiddle with it.

I was assuming by the overviews that they would take the 1GB RAM.

And the screen size differences is due to the hinges and bezel adapting to the smaller/larger size.

I haven't played with a T23 either, but if its like the T21 and T22 (minus the BOD), I agree it's build quality is good. Once I get mine running I'll be able to compare the two.

Raceboy · #30 Post by **Raceboy** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:28 pm

Having owned both R30 and T23 (and still have T23), I can say from first hand experience (ran many tests) that R30 is DEAD SLOW compared to T23.

Reason is that it uses Ali chipset and is built by Acer.

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