I want a 17" 1440x900 laptop with

[fefrie]

512mb of discreet graphics and a thinkpoint mouse.

I have a huge laptop desktop replacement and I have to say that on occasion, I do like the larger screen.

I'm floating between the huge toshiba p20 widescreen and the t23.

The p20 definitely is a lap crusher, but for home it is fine. I'll still keep the t23 as a mobility laptop.

Surprisingly, except for video, the p3 t23 still holds up to the rigors of websurfing. It is barely noticeably slower for the practicalities of websurfing in comparison to the 3.4p4 p20 with 1 gig of ram and hyperthreading.

Someone recently saw my t23 and said that it looked 'old' I laughed and said that all thinkpads except for size look basically the same. If I wanted a spaceship laptop with gimmicky buttons and lights I would have gotten an acer/dell/mac/sony/hp/compaq, etc etc etc. If I wanted a laptop that felt like it was built like a rock, I'd get a thinkpad.

[jdhurst]

<snip>
Someone recently saw my t23 and said that it looked 'old' <snip> If I wanted a laptop that felt like it was built like a rock, I'd get a thinkpad.

The T23 remains to this day (in my opinion) the very best form factor ever built in a laptop. Small for a 2-spindle machine, and solid. Too bad it was shunted aside. ... JDH

[ajkula66]

jdhurst wrote:

The T23 remains to this day (in my opinion) the very best form factor ever built in a laptop.

I second this wholeheartedly. And it has proven itself to be way more abuse-resistant than its younger and lighter siblings...

[pianowizard]

it has proven itself to be way more abuse-resistant than its younger and lighter siblings...

...if you ignore the extremely vulnerable plastic strips around the keyboard.

[jdhurst]

As with any laptop, there were one or two design deficiencies. I just wish IBM had fixed the deficiencies, put in a more powerful CPU, and added support for very large hard drives. Wishful thinking on my part. ... JDH

[bill bolton]

As with any laptop, there were one or two design deficiencies

More than one or two!

Our overall field problem rates on T2x models were much higher than for T4x, which again were higher than T6x models are shaping up so far.

Cheers,

Bill B.

[ajkula66]

bill bolton wrote:

Our overall field problem rates on T2x models were much higher than for T4x, which again were higher than T6x models are shaping up so far.

I guess that really comes down to who's (ab)using the given machine, and in which particular set of circumstances...

Not to doubt Mr. Bolton's statistics, my experience of almost a decade of dragging different laptops through all aspects of telecom field work has shown T2x machines to have a much higher survival rate than later ThinkPads, or even early ToughBooks. We still have quite a few working T2x units while everything else from that era, as well as quite a few newer machines have been buried with honours...including some business-class HPs, ToughBooks, R5x and X3x ThinkPads...