Should I wait for the X62T?

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Xtal · #31 Post by **Xtal** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:10 pm

snots wrote:
milstein wrote:The ink of a capacitive touch screen definitely "flows" better
And it is the job of the developer to eliminate / reduce the electrical noise and interferences to the touch device
Maybe we cannot get the best of both worlds at the moment, but we'll see
should i be worried about the "ink flow" of a x61t then ? ( i have yet to try one for > 1 minute).

your comment implies that there is still a noticeable gap between ink flow on a tablet vs in real life; sure, there must be a difference, but it seems like its enough of a difference for you to consider changing screen technology..

milstein was referring to the touch screen technology which is distinct from the Wacom pen input. The pen input is excellent and is not likely to change. The only complaint I have about the stylus input is the slight displacement of the cursor when it's very close to the edge of the screen (eg, the windows task bar). The SXGA+ model of the X61T comes with pen input only, no touchscreen.

ronan_zj · #32 Post by **ronan_zj** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:18 pm

I just read the tabbook , it doesnt say the SXGA+ screen have Multitouch function.

milstein · #33 Post by **milstein** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:28 am

an inkshow demonstrating the value of implementing touch technology with capacitive touch screen
http://www.gottabemobile.com/GBM+InkSho ... eview.aspx

epu · #34 Post by **epu** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:53 am

Didn't see the "T" part, but I swear up and down that the X61's successor is the new IdeaPad U110. Almost everything the X61 has (minus the trackpoint) WITH a WXGA+ Screen.

minc3d · #35 Post by **minc3d** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:20 pm

I don't know how the ideapad series is going to take over for the X series anytime soon... many like me are tied to our old school 4x3 screens and I don't see Ideapad filling that void.

Also, yes, the SXGA is not flexview. The XGA screen is and I can say it is a very bright screen (same nits as my old X41 but about 1.5 times brighter) and can be used in sunlight! Working on the laptop next to a train window or in bright sunlit room is finally a reality.

qviri · #36 Post by **qviri** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:20 pm

epu wrote:Didn't see the "T" part, but I swear up and down that the X61's successor is the new IdeaPad U110. Almost everything the X61 has (minus the trackpoint) WITH a WXGA+ Screen.

1) U110 is part of Lenovo's consumer line.
2) U110 has a 16:10 WXGA 1366x768 screen.
3) The successors to the X6*s are Thinkpads X200 and X300, with a trackpoint and widescreens, WXGA and WXGA+ respectively.

epu · #37 Post by **epu** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:50 pm

Yes, it's understood that the X300 and X200 are the "successors" to the X61, but it seems as if it's that way only on paper. These seem more like different products aimed at competing directly with the MacBook air rather than as an upgrade to the X61.

The U110 has almost every feature that the X61 has, with a higher resolution screen. Also, while the processor in the U110 isn't as fast, it's faster than the ones currently offered in the X300. The X6 has longer battery life, but not at the expense of processor power, correct me if I'm wrong.

Certainly, if someone bought the X300, they're buying it because of its weight, not because of its sheer power. Then again, a similar argument could be made for the U110, because it's a "consumer" model. I'm not comparing the U110 with it's "counterparts". It's almost as if they're not even in the same league. Lenovo didn't even give the 110 the same model name designation for the other products in that "line".

You have the Y710, Y510, then the U110.

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/20 ... eapad.html

minc3d · #38 Post by **minc3d** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:31 pm

Anyone other than me have gripes with the Ideapad's glossy keyboards ala Sony Vaio?

I'll take my dull Thinkpad black over Paris Hilton gloss anyday.

#39 Post by **erik** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:15 pm

qviri wrote:2) U110 has a 16:10 WXGA 1366x768 screen.

everything i've read states that it's 1280x800.

btw, 1366x768 is 16:9, not 16:10.

qviri · #40 Post by **qviri** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:23 pm

I got the resolution from http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4182. May be wrong.

My bad about aspect ratios.

#41 Post by **erik** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:34 pm

it's definitely possible. this site has decent pics of the U110 and it does look like a 16:9 panel, lending more toward the notion of it being 1366x768.

update: page four of that link says that it is indeed 1366x768.

#42 Post by **JaneL** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:54 pm

qviri wrote:I got the resolution from http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4182. May be wrong.

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pcinstitu ... ipbook.pdf

crashnburn · #43 Post by **crashnburn** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:11 pm

I guess the next X series tablets will have resolutions less than SXGA+ or is there hope that lenovo will maintain that.

Trekk69 · #44 Post by **Trekk69** » Wed May 14, 2008 2:15 pm

I would hope that it is maintained, in addition, making it available with a better multi-touch capable screen as well.
I am really enjoying my SXGA+ now, and think I would enjoy having multi touch too!

ryan00davis · #45 Post by **ryan00davis** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:24 pm

yea, i got the multitouch, and oftentimes wish i had the higher resolution, i do use the touch, just dont think i get as much use out of it as i would the extra real estate

ajkula66 · #46 Post by **ajkula66** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:00 pm

And who's willing to bet against me if I say that by next generation IPS LCDs will be gone from tablets?

snots · #47 Post by **snots** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:12 am

ajkula66 wrote:And who's willing to bet against me if I say that by next generation IPS LCDs will be gone from tablets?

ironically we reverse roles in our stance on lenovo. how will lenovo uphold their thinkpad's quality if they offer a worse screen?

EDIT: wow the thread i randomly started a month ago has 2000+ views. there are alot of lurkers on this forum... !!!

ajkula66 · #48 Post by **ajkula66** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:34 am

snots wrote:

ironically we reverse roles in our stance on lenovo. how will lenovo uphold their thinkpad's quality if they offer a worse screen?

I never said "worse". My assumption is that new tablets will be LED lit like X300, and likely widescreen.

snots · #49 Post by **snots** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:39 am

ajkula66 wrote:snots wrote:

ironically we reverse roles in our stance on lenovo. how will lenovo uphold their thinkpad's quality if they offer a worse screen?
I never said "worse". My assumption is that new tablets will be LED lit like X300, and likely widescreen.

tech question: is LED lighting brighter? offers better viewing angles? I dont refer to the actual display quality, just the brightness / viewing angles..

Volker · #50 Post by **Volker** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:15 pm

snots wrote:tech question: is LED lighting brighter? offers better viewing angles?

LEDs are more efficient at converting electricity into visible light. Replacing ccfl by lcds, you could either save power and keep brightness or increase brightness with constant battery drain.

Disadvantages: comparably new tech, might have unforeseen issues that show up down the road. Like this: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/m ... o-led.html

ajkula66 · #51 Post by **ajkula66** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:50 pm

snots wrote:

tech question: is LED lighting brighter? offers better viewing angles? I dont refer to the actual display quality, just the brightness / viewing angles..

Hmmm...brighter, judging by my brief encounter with X300, definitely. Viewing angles, that's tough. I'd have to run it side-by-side with one of my FlexViews, and I haven't had a chance to do so. And even then, I'd be comparing angles on widescreen vs. standard screen...and that's apples and oranges IMHO.

Should I wait for the X62T?

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