ReadyBoost + Vista SP1 = freeze on reboot?

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ReadyBoost + Vista SP1 = freeze on reboot?

#1 Post by Anastasius » Sun May 11, 2008 2:38 am

Does anyone experience the following issues - after installation of Vista SP1 I got ReadyBoost turning itself off randomly. It starts working OK after reboot, then, after several Sleep/Hibernate cycles it eventually turns itself off. And, after it has happened - my X61T freezes on reboot, so I have to switch it off and on manually.

In addition to that, when it has turned itself off I cannot view properties of my SD card, where the ReadyBoost cache is being stored. I press the right mouse button to see its properties in Explorer - but the pop-up dialog freezes as well!

I use Turbomem for ReadyDrive and 4GB SD card for ReadyBoost. Vista Business 2GB RAM.

??? :cry: :cry:

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#2 Post by jasperjugan » Sun May 11, 2008 3:53 am

mine works fine. how much did you give for readyboost and what's the speed of your SD?
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#3 Post by Anastasius » Mon May 12, 2008 6:14 am

4GB, SDHC class 6

the actual size of the card is 8GB

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#4 Post by smvp6459 » Mon May 12, 2008 10:04 am

Have you updated the Turbo Memory drivers?

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product ... uctID=2813

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#5 Post by Anastasius » Mon May 12, 2008 1:51 pm

smvp6459
Sure

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#6 Post by geobel » Mon May 12, 2008 9:51 pm

I cannot say for sure, but I felt like there was an intermittent conflict between intel flash memory and active protection system that was freezing the system. I have stopped playing with readyboost by now, however, as I anyway only use hibernation. Still use readydrive though.

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#7 Post by Anastasius » Tue May 13, 2008 12:18 pm

There wasn't such problem in my case, before installation of Vista SP1 (there were others problems before SP1, but not this particular one). It all started after SP1.

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#8 Post by geobel » Tue May 13, 2008 9:27 pm

Anastasius wrote:There wasn't such problem in my case, before installation of Vista SP1 (there were others problems before SP1, but not this particular one). It all started after SP1.

:cry:
It may be related to SP1 or it may be something else that freezes you system. Once I spent nearly an hour trying to revive my system that was freezing on startup only to find it was Adobe acrobat 7 update manager. It failed to finish update, was written to startup and caused system to freeze at every boot. So check the startup entries using run/msconfig, regedit or Startup_cpl from Mike Lin.

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#9 Post by Anastasius » Wed May 14, 2008 1:08 am

geobel
Thanks! I already did it having problems with Adobe Reader Something as well :D

My issues come from some conflict between SD & ReadyBoost as I understand. Today, when my system got frozen, I pulled off SDHC card from the slot and it started working... But when I inserted the card back again and tried to access SD card disk from the Explorer, the Explorer itself got frozen. :? And I couldn't even close it, so I had to reboot.

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#10 Post by Anastasius » Thu May 15, 2008 3:16 am

I switched off Intel Turbo Memory ReadyDrive, but the problem still persists. ReadyBoost switches itself off eventually and after that and after a period of time Explorer got frozen. :cry:

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#11 Post by Anastasius » Thu May 15, 2008 8:23 am

It all got worse. Don't know, how it's all related....

Computer freezes after 10 minutes of working right after reboot! I had 20 reboots for today and I don't know how to fix it. X61 starts up, I login, then it starts 'eating' hdd (as usual) and after 10 minutes it stops respoding - gradually. The first thing that freezes is taskbar, then Explorer and then all other programs.

I had the same symptoms, when Hybryd power saving was switched on sometime ago. But now it is of...
The strangest thing, that it doesn't freeze if I switch it on immediately. So, if I turn on Hybrid power saving, the computer begins to stop responding later - maybe in 20 minutes...

So I have time just to play with some settings and to post this message...

UPD: I uninstalled SP1 - nothing is changed. :(

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#12 Post by Gadreel » Thu May 15, 2008 6:08 pm

Did your SD card go bad?

Have you tried other SD cards or tested that one on another system? I haven't had any problems with ReadyBoost so I can't really diagnose anything without some questions. It is working great but I did hear that SD cards run down a lot faster than the USB thumb drives. Don't quote me on that one. I don't have the source material on hand.

I was having immense lag/lockup issues a while back and I realized what happened. I set the power management setting to Power Saver while the laptop was plugged in, thinking it would revert back after I unplugged it and plugged the power cable back in, and tried to multitask in that setting. Well. Long story short. It didn't like that at all. I almost threw the laptop at the wall too because I was so aggravated. But it was the power setting all along. Setting it to High Performance fixes everything essentially in my story. Maybe that might help.
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#13 Post by Anastasius » Sun May 18, 2008 2:11 am

Gadreel
Thanks for the ideas! I have had random lockups and I've solved it in power management by switchin off hybrid power saving. This issue was longly discussed on tabletpcreview forums.

Now I've solved (I hope) my lockup on boot issue by uninstalling and installing back again Vista SP1.

But I still have problems with ReadyBoost. It turns itself off in 3 or 4 sleep-awake cycles (using integrated SD card slot). I've tested SD card and tried to use another one - nothing changes.

:cry:

*it all started after Vista SP1.

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#14 Post by Anastasius » Tue May 20, 2008 12:24 am

What helps me - is pulling the SD card out and then in. Then ReadyBoost starts responding.

Maybe it's the problem with SD-card drivers? How to update them? I haven't found any SD card drivers on Lenovo.

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#15 Post by bjahome » Fri May 23, 2008 11:20 am

I too have the problem you describe (and yes, pulling the card out and putting it back in "wakes it up"). Until reading your post, I thought it was just me. I ended up downgrading and reloading SP1 3x in the last month, trying to understand this. Yesterday, spent 2 hours with Microsoft "support" letting them know it seems to be a problem with SP1 and the SD card/reader/cache. and no fix. The problem seems to be outside of the cache (readyboost) because I turned off that feature in the SD card, and I still couldn't shutdown without pulling the card. Maybe, if the word gets out, someone might find updated drivers (newer than 2006).
Anyway, thanks for figuring this out, I was going nuts trying to undestand why I couldn't shutdown once I "upgraded" to SP1.

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#16 Post by Anastasius » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:53 am

Stil no solutions? :( :( :( :?

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#17 Post by hp79 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:24 am

I'm having the same problem with my x61tablet.

I installed vista x64 then installed sp1 and minimal updates and softwares, trying to keep it lean.

I usually have my sandisk SDHC 4GB extreme 3 in the slot all the time. At least, that's how I used it on xp tablet for last 12 months.
After switching to vista with sp1, it keeps on freezing and I had to pull out the SD card out just like everyone else here.

I think it's a problem with the intel turbo memory (v1.6) thing and SD. I can't believe intel and microsoft still didn't straighten out the turbomemory performance. I don't think Readyboost and Readydrive are quite ready to use yet.


x61tablet, 4gb ram, intel 4965, BT, multitouch.

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