fastest/largest disk i can get for T42P ?

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Bashar · #1 Post by **Bashar** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:25 pm

I was wondering what is the fastest/largest disk that can fit into T42P ?

i have 60GB and i *think* its a 7200RPM (btw how can i check it?)

Best Regards,

aaa · #2 Post by **aaa** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:55 pm

Go to the Device Manager in Windows and get the model number. Then google said model number. That should tell you if it's 7200.

The biggest 7200 disk you can get is 100gb, and they are very rare now.

I recommend getting a huge 5400 disk, as they tend to be around as fast as those old 7200's (bigger=faster). The WD 250gb for example.

Bashar · #3 Post by **Bashar** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:11 pm

HTS726060M9AT00

as per google its 7200rpm

#4 Post by **richk** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:49 pm

I have found that "fastest" depends on that you are doing. When you read lots of small files (like at boot-up), the rotational speed is really important, because it takes the disk a certain time to spin to the start of the file. (rotational latency) If you are reading big files, I have found a lot less difference between 5400RPM disks and 7200RPM. If I needed to process large files, I would choose a bigger disk with the largest cache.

Bashar · #5 Post by **Bashar** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:44 pm

i run programs such as openoffice, firefox, thunderbird etc.. and processing things are slow when accessing lots of files and programs in the same time

i think the paging file is big thats why i wanted a faster disk than my 60GB 7200RPM

#6 Post by **richk** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:10 pm

If you haven't defragmented the disk recently, try that. It may help some. (also, it's free)

awolfe63 · #7 Post by **awolfe63** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:52 pm

There are numerous 160GB 7200 RPM disks. They are pretty close in speed with the Hitachi and Seagate being the fastest.

Western Digital has a 250GB PATA drive at 5400RPM. It is plenty fast if you need the extra space.

I have a T42 with one of each - both are faster than the stock 60GB 7200RPM drive for anything I normally do.

(Oops - this was wrong. the 160GB is 5400RPM - I have a 100GB 7200RPM)

Tim M · #8 Post by **Tim M** » Sat May 24, 2008 1:16 am

awolfe63 wrote:There are numerous 160GB 7200 RPM disks. They are pretty close in speed with the Hitachi and Seagate being the fastest.

Western Digital has a 250GB PATA drive at 5400RPM. It is plenty fast if you need the extra space.

I have a T42 with one of each - both are faster than the stock 60GB 7200RPM drive for anything I normally do.

Did you have any issues with the machine recognizing such large ATA-100 disks? My tentative next upgrade would be to upgrade the 60GB 7200RPM drive with something bigger and faster.

#9 Post by **Johan** » Sat May 24, 2008 3:09 am

awolfe63 wrote:There are numerous 160GB 7200 RPM disks. They are pretty close in speed with the Hitachi and Seagate being the fastest.

I would be very interested in information about these > 100 GB 7200 rpm 2.5" HDD's suitable for T42/p's, as I have never heard of any 2.5" PATA 7200 rpm HDD above 100 GB. There are several 2.5" 7200 rpm SATA HDD's with > 100 GB capacity, yes... but since T42/p's uses PATA, these new, big SATA's are not of interest here.

Please provide infomation about all 2.5" 7200 rpm > 100 GB PATA HDD's you know of - thank you in advance!

Johan

awolfe63 · #10 Post by **awolfe63** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:15 am

Whoops - you're right - I got mixed up. My 7200RPM 160GB is in a T43 (SATA). The one in my T42 is 5400RPM. I do have a 100GB 7200RPM in some of my T42s.

awolfe63 · #11 Post by **awolfe63** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:17 am

Tim M wrote:
awolfe63 wrote:There are numerous 160GB 7200 RPM disks. They are pretty close in speed with the Hitachi and Seagate being the fastest.

Western Digital has a 250GB PATA drive at 5400RPM. It is plenty fast if you need the extra space.

I have a T42 with one of each - both are faster than the stock 60GB 7200RPM drive for anything I normally do.
Did you have any issues with the machine recognizing such large ATA-100 disks? My tentative next upgrade would be to upgrade the 60GB 7200RPM drive with something bigger and faster.

None whatsoever - on XP pro from the recovery disk or on Ubuntu.

ajkula66 · #12 Post by **ajkula66** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:03 pm

awolfe63 wrote:

My 7200RPM 160GB is in a T43 (SATA)

How did you manage to install a SATA drive in a T43?

#13 Post by **Harryc** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:23 pm

The T43 has an SATA bridge, is that what you meant?

awolfe63 · #14 Post by **awolfe63** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:39 pm

ajkula66 wrote:awolfe63 wrote:

My 7200RPM 160GB is in a T43 (SATA)
How did you manage to install a SATA drive in a T43?

I guess "in" was the wrong word. It is external.

I use it as a spare server so it never moves - I put a spare 160GB in an external case. I guess the fact that it is a T43 is irrelevant given that it is on a USB/SATA bridge.

I have another one on my X61s. That one is actually inside with a direct SATA connection.

Tim M · #15 Post by **Tim M** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:03 pm

awolfe63 wrote:Whoops - you're right - I got mixed up. My 7200RPM 160GB is in a T43 (SATA). The one in my T42 is 5400RPM. I do have a 100GB 7200RPM in some of my T42s.

Ah...that makes sense now. Too bad the old 100 GB 7200 RPM PATA drives are harder to find.

Tim M · #16 Post by **Tim M** » Mon May 26, 2008 12:54 am

For those interested, it seems this drive (HITACHI Travelstar E7K100 HTE721010G9AT00) is available from Newegg.

Am I correct that this PATA drive is what we are seeking for our older T42/ps?

Edit: bah, out of stock

ajkula66 · #17 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:01 am

Available is not the correct term, since it's listed as "out of stock"...and yes, this would be a great drive for any T4x unit...

systemBuilder · #18 Post by **systemBuilder** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:43 pm

All drives in Thinkpad T4x and T6x machines use PATA interface. Period. There are SATA caddys for the T6x series, but they actually contain a converter chipset that converts SATA to PATA.

The Lenovo/IBM SATA caddys have an extra pin in them, which must be removed for use in T4x machines. This pin is for positioning only (no signal is on this pin.) With this modification, Lenovo/IBM SATA caddys will work in T4x laptops. There are after market SATA caddys that work with both T6x and T4x laptops on ebay, without the pin, but they are 2x more expensive than the PATA caddys ($45 vs. $25). I imagine that SATA caddys can't be any faster, because the PATA transfer rate is fixed by the interface, and that is the bottleneck in all cases.

PATA = 100 MB/sec or 133 MB/sec.
SATA I = 150 MB/sec
SATA 2 = 300 MB/sec

ajkula66 · #19 Post by **ajkula66** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:30 pm

systemBuilder wrote:

All drives in Thinkpad T4x and T6x machines use PATA interface. Period.

Not true for T6x series which use SATA drives in the main bay. If you're referring to the interface in the UltraBay, that indeed is PATA.

schmaud · #20 Post by **schmaud** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:13 am

Hi,

a) for the normal drive bay
The t42P has an IDE/PATA drive, not an SATA drive. It should take all 2.5 inch IDE (same as PATA) drive. Only exception: there were some older drives which were some 12 mm thick, standrt is 9.5 mm.
(Note that with the t43 it is slightly different, quite a lot of drives cause a BIOS error message on boot, but work fine.)

The biggest 2.5 inch IDE (or PATA)drive is a 320 GB 5400 rpm drive from WD. I believe there is a 250 GB 7200 rpm drive from segate. If there is any sped difference between the 2 drives depends a bit on the application, but it shoudl be no problem for most application.

b) 2nd harddisk. you can put a 2nd harddrive adapter in the ultrabay slim instead of the DVD drive.
-the official adapter supports only IDE /Pata disk, thus drives mentioned above are the max.
- there are off brand adapter to SATA on ebay. I do not know how well they work with the t42. for them quite a lot of 500 GB 2.5 inch disks are around, both 5400 and 7200 rpm. ( I believe there was recently a overview about current models on toms hardware).

cheers

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