Upgrade from Banias to Dothan

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Upgrade from Banias to Dothan

#1 Post by Torque » Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:34 am

Hi Guys :D

I have a T41p, as in my signature. 2373-GGG.

As far as I've been told, its 1,7GHz processor (1MB cache) is a Pentium M Banias.

Will I be able to upgrade to Dothan? Or will this require another motherboard/chipset because of ex. different bus speeds?
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#2 Post by sktn77a » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:52 am

If you search on this board, you will find a couple of people have done this. However, the maximum you can go to right now is a 2.0 or 2.1 GHz Dothan. You wouldn't see much of a difference in speed and it would cost you $500-$800.
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Re: Upgrade from Banias to Dothan

#3 Post by Steve007 » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:55 am

Torque wrote:Hi Guys :D

I have a T41p, as in my signature. 2373-GGG.

As far as I've been told, its 1,7GHz processor (1MB cache) is a Pentium M Banias.

Will I be able to upgrade to Dothan? Or will this require another motherboard/chipset because of ex. different bus speeds?
Totally pointless doing that IMO! You should stick to what you've got as the slight increase in speed simply doesn't warrant the cost you'll incur!

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#4 Post by Torque » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:17 pm

Point taken, then. Thanks :)

I just thought there would be a pretty good increase in performance, due to the Dothans larger cache.
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#5 Post by RoadHazard » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:04 pm

If you have a 1.4 or 1.5 then it might be worth it to upgrade to a 2.0 or 2.1. But I'd wait for the price to come down first.
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#6 Post by zzyss » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:21 am

Just wondering, I have a T40 2373HH5 with 1.5GHz Banaias. There's no hope that I would be able to put a 1.7GHz (or higher) Dothan in there, is there? I've checked the Hardware Maintenance manual and its (obviously) not listed as one of the part numbers compatible with my system board. But just wondering whether that's just an unsupported configuration, or whether the hardware really is incapable of using it (ie. heat dissipation problems, architectural differences, etc.)

And where exactly does one go to buy loose Pentium M processors??
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#7 Post by beeblebrox » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:46 am

there is no difference between Banias and Dothan, except internal configuration (cache, architecture). Check the Intel literature.

The socket is the same and power consumption is similar.
So you can put into the socket any Pentium M between 1.3Ghz (when it came out) and 2.13Ghz.
(However, I recommend to check your intended usage!
If you only commute to the office and shopping center, it would also be useless to upgrade your Porsche 911 to a Porsche 911 Turbo. Useless. So for email and internet, even a 800Mhz Pentium III is overkill.)

Just check on Intels side the max wattage. The cooling system can easily handle it, since the processors all have around 21-25 Watts.

It is very similar to the Graphics Radeon Chips. They all fit into the same socket (Flexfit), same hardware and same software, and can easily be exchanged, i.e. you could change between a Radeon 7500, 9000 up to 9700 just by inserting the newer processor.
What really pisses me off is that IBM decided to solder the chip on the board to save a few pennies by eliminating the socket.

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#8 Post by zzyss » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:09 am

beeblebrox wrote:What really pisses me off is that IBM decided to solder the chip on the board to save a few pennies by eliminating the socket.
The CPU as well, or just the graphics chip?
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