**Oil prices high..? Not so much when you do the math..!**

[mattbiernat]

i wanna get the stem cell research going...

Then get to it. There's no law against stem cell research.

there is no federal funding for it. everything is state funded.

[goofyGAguy]

there is no federal funding for it.

And that's exactly how it should be. If embryonic stem-cell research had near the promise that its proponents claim, private companies would be tripping over themselves trying to get a piece of the action.

[mattbiernat]

And that's exactly how it should be. If embryonic stem-cell research had near the promise that its proponents claim, private companies would be tripping over themselves trying to get a piece of the action.

unfortunately a lot of research is done at public universities and those do need federal and state funding....

[Phazer]

The more things change...the more they stay the same.....

[ajkula66]

goofyGAguy wrote:

And that's exactly how it should be. If embryonic stem-cell research had near the promise that its proponents claim, private companies would be tripping over themselves trying to get a piece of the action.

Not really. Private companies are deadly afraid (and with a good reason, may I add) that the religious right will end up passing a bill that would outlaw stem-cell research altogether, destroying any investment in the process.

sco1984 wrote:

Bill Clinton was much descent & cleaver politician!!

I can't help but wonder if you would feel this way had your city been bombed to get the attention off the Lewinsky scandal, like mine has...my wishes aimed towards the gentleman in question could not be expressed around here, since I don't want to put Mr. Morrow in the uncomfortable position of having to ban me from his forum...

To my compadres, Puppy and beGi:

No, it will not get better where you guys are. But I still envy you, believe it or not...

[beGi]

I can't help but wonder if you would feel this way had your city been bombed to get the attention off the Lewinsky scandal, like mine has...

I don't agree with that, and I'm not saying that Bill C is "good or bad".....

First, violence is not solution, it simply wrong.

Second, Bill didn't do that ,NATO did, and implication on Monica doesn't make any sense....

Third, forgive me, but I will say this; I would say that even NATO didn't do it, Slobodan Milosevic and people who voted for him and his ideas did it....and unfortunately "your people" are still paying the price.....

Fourth, sometimes violence is only language that someone understands (and if that wasn't done, and conflicts ended in diplomatic manner, you would still have Kosovo)....

Fifth, opinion is like an a***ole, everyone have it....

I hope I didn't push it too far (I apologise if I did)....

[ajkula66]

beGi wrote:

First, violence is not solution, it simply wrong.

I couldn't agree more. That's one of the reasons I've gotten myself beaten to the point of urinating blood for weeks during protests of March 9th, 1991...

beGi wrote:

Second, Bill didn't do that ,NATO did, and implication on Monica doesn't make any sense....

My sources, which happen to be an ex-President of a country involved in the bombing during an informal conversation with my mother while presenting her with an award, would beg to differ with you on this. NATO was dragged into this by Clinton and Blair, period. But that doesn't matter at this point anyway.

beGi wrote:

Third, forgive me, but I will say this; I would say that even NATO didn't do it, Slobodan Milosevic and people who voted for him and his ideas did it....and unfortunately "your people" are still paying the price.....

I can see where you're coming from with this, and that is a valid point, but I'd have a couple of small things to add:

a) The number of people who supported Milosevic is usually overestimated. That's why they couldn't summon more than 4 people for my generation's 25th graduation anniversary...most of us had left, and wanted nothing to do with the whole thing...
b) If it were the only thing that "my people" were paying for, I'd say "so be it"...because of the harm that has been done in their name. But it's not....
c) Milosevic was the only person that the Western World wanted to negotiate with, since they knew that he was the one with the power of guns. By doing that, they helped keeping him in power against the will of majority of the people.

beGi wrote:

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and if that wasn't done, and conflicts ended in diplomatic manner, you would still have Kosovo)....

I'd agree with the part on diplomacy, however, Kosovo had been lost at least 30 years ago, and sooner "my people" get to understand that and learn to live with it, better off they'll be.

beGi wrote:

I hope I didn't push it too far (I apologise if I did)....

No reason for you to apologize for anything, you haven't pushed it too far at all, and are, by all means, entitled to your opinion, whether I agree with it or not. And, as you can see from this post, I do agree with you on quite a few aspects of the whole scenario.

To close this off-topic (at least on my part), the civilized approach that two of us have shown in this thread would have done a world of good had it been practised by people with actual power "over there" two decades ago...

Enjoy the summer and your beautiful town, I wish I were there to open up a bottle or two with you...

[goofyGAguy]

Not really. Private companies are deadly afraid (and with a good reason, may I add) that the religious right will end up passing a bill that would outlaw stem-cell research altogether, destroying any investment in the process.

There's nothing to worry about. The " Religious Right " has been trying to overturn Roe v. Wade for thirty five years now.

[ajkula66]

goofyGAguy wrote:

There's nothing to worry about. The " Religious Right " has been trying to overturn Roe v. Wade for thirty five years now.

I'm pretty convinced that I'll live to see that one overturned, not that I want it to be...stay tuned...