SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#151 Post by charles.atcher » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:01 pm

erik wrote: have you taken delivery of the panels and tested them?   if so, how did they turn out?

a month ago i bought a panel for a forum member who wanted an X61SXGA+ built.   the first panel was defective.   it was an absolute pain trying to get a replacement and the seller was in the US.   i can't imagine trying to exchange a panel between the US and china.

that's darned cheap though.   i paid over twice that and lost $15 returning the defective panel. :?

at least the project turned out well.   the panel i received wound up being one of the best i've built to date -- no dead pixels, no bright corners, and no gigantic spots of dust from refurbishing (which all these panels are... none of them are truly "new" no matter what the sellers claim).
Yeah, just purchased them tonight. I bought three hoping I might get one that's perfect. I'll report back, but being as they are in China, who knows how long it'll be on shipping. Still, decent price, hoping for the best.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#152 Post by charles.atcher » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:33 pm

Well they've shipped. Received a tracking number six hours after I paid.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#153 Post by adrianaitken » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:05 am

If I was going to upgrade my X61 (non 'S' version), there seems to be a choice of HV121P01-101 or HV121P01-100 as screen replacements.
Can someone tell me if either are a straight swap or would both require a custom cable be made ?
Basically I either upgrade my X61 screen or spend the money replacing my X60 motherboard with a X61 one (dual 2 core,have extra RAM etc) but both would be stuck with stock screens (use them photo and video editing and the extra screen size on my X61 would be nice).
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#154 Post by erik » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:59 am

both displays would require a custom cable.   there's no getting around that, even with an XGA tablet panel in an X6x.

the -101 won't fit correctly.   besides, there's no reason to buy it over a -100.   the difference between the 100 and 101 is the shape of the metal frame, the plastic and glass writing surfaces, and the model of digitizer on the back.   the displays themselves are the same underneath.   i say this coming from first-hand experience.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#155 Post by adrianaitken » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:51 pm

Now you're not just to pimp your cables now are you ? :) :) :)
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#156 Post by erik » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:14 pm

no, i'm trying to keep you from plugging a tablet display into your notebook cable and frying your system planar -- since that's what happens when you cross pins 1/2/3 and dump +3.3V to ground. ;)

you don't have to take my word for it though.   just be prepared to buy yourself a new notebook. :P

if i were trying to pimp cables, i'd have gone into mass production with them by now.   since profit is low and people don't want to spend the cash for them, once i sell the 2 or 3 i have on hand, i probably won't be making more.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#157 Post by Mooseifer » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:21 am

I'd just like to throw my hat into the arena too. Recently, I've completed this mod on an X32 and it is fantastic. My plan has always been to perform this modification on an X61s and this will probably be early next year. Since I mainly use Linux, it seems the BIOS mod is not a requirement, thus only the cable mod is required. A guide to making the cable would be great - I'm willing to give this a go - though if ready-made cables become a possibility, then I'm interested.

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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#158 Post by fasterbybike » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:11 pm

The Kapton tape arrived today -now to find some time this side of Christmas to get the cable made.

And I'm still looking for the modified BIOS for the X61 to run at SXGA+ resolution. If anyone has a copy or link please PM me :P
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#159 Post by crazyfrog » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:57 am

erik wrote:both displays would require a custom cable.   there's no getting around that, even with an XGA tablet panel in an X6x.
Bad news to me. I originally planned to install an XGA tablet panel in my X61. Now I have to find a custom cable too. :(
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#160 Post by rek » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:02 pm

charles.atcher wrote:Well they've shipped. Received a tracking number six hours after I paid.
I'll be quite interested to hear how these panels turn out, and exactly what you get from the seller.

From the pictures it looks like the panels are 'bare' - i.e. no digitiser or writing surface. At least I hope so - that would be perfect for doing these mods :)
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#161 Post by charles.atcher » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:13 pm

rek wrote:I'll be quite interested to hear how these panels turn out, and exactly what you get from the seller.

From the pictures it looks like the panels are 'bare' - i.e. no digitiser or writing surface. At least I hope so - that would be perfect for doing these mods :)
Just opened the box today, it came in yesterday while I was away. Was wrapped great.

So far they look fantastic. A couple of signs that it was a "refurb" not new. There is some tape residue on the connector, and a new part number sticker over the original.

The aluminum frame is stamped with the part number in the lower right. There is no digitizer or writing surface, just the screen itself. I plan on testing them tonight or tomorrow night.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#162 Post by erik » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:24 pm

definitely let us know how they test out.   that's 95% of the battle.

like i said at the end of the last page, none of these panels are new no matter what resellers claim.   everything is either used or refurbished in small labs (and not dust-free ones, either).   if any of your panels have dust spots inside, you can guarantee that the CCFL was replaced.
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#163 Post by rek » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:46 am

Thanks for the info - sounds good. I ordered one today.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#164 Post by charles.atcher » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:52 pm

Well I'm currently using one of the panels I purchased, and so far it looks darn good. Having never used a Flexview screen, I'm not sure if it's a perfect example, but I see no dirt or dust specks, and no pressure marks. Doesn't seem quite as bright as I'd imagine it would, but perhaps that's just me.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#165 Post by fasterbybike » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:49 pm

Interesting - last week the listings were for "New", now they show "Used" and in the description say "90% new and original (it very new)". Obviously a language issue !
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#166 Post by charles.atcher » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:51 pm

fasterbybike wrote:Interesting - last week the listings were for "New", now they show "Used" and in the description say "90% new and original (it very new)". Obviously a language issue !

Sneaky guys also raised the price.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#167 Post by rek » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:41 pm

They are now also out of HV121P01-100 panels, they only have -101s :(

(I just got an email from the seller telling me their last -100 panel was poor quality and they had no more stock, and asked whether I would like a refund, or a -101 panel)

Anyone have a -100 panel for sale? ;)
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#168 Post by Mooseifer » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:41 pm

Well, on Friday, I got another -100 panel and it tested well on my X31 test machine. All that's left for me to do is the cable.

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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#169 Post by andykrej » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:23 pm

I have a question for those who made their own jumper harness. Where did you order parts for this?

I only see one post refering to http://www.digikey.com, but the member never posted back whether it worked.

It might be my only option to order the connectors from there unless somebody knows another source, preferably in EU.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#170 Post by erik » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:01 pm

afaik, digikey is one of the only public sources for hirose connectors.
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#171 Post by andykrej » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:02 pm

Help needed!

I finally managed to get hold of all the parts for the mod. Bought panel from the chinese company on ebay.

I put it all together and got following screen when i switched it on:
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I've tested the cable. There are no shorts, and all connections should be ok. I've used 28awg wire (not coax) and shielded the two 3.3V cables as suggested by Erik. I have the 51NB bios.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#172 Post by adrianaitken » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:23 am

To my untrained eye that looks like the wires are crossed. I'd recheck each one is going from A to A and not A to B !!!
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#173 Post by andykrej » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:17 pm

Well, the wires weren't crossed.

My friend came over with his x60t today, and we had a testing session. Result: my screen doesn't work in the x60t. His screen works in mine, so the cable is okay (apart from some minor shielding problem). The bad news is that my panel is bad. Worse news is that I've already started cutting off the tabs, so it's gonna be impossible to return it as faulty.

will have to look around for another lcd.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#174 Post by charles.atcher » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:41 pm

andykrej wrote:Well, the wires weren't crossed.

My friend came over with his x60t today, and we had a testing session. Result: my screen doesn't work in the x60t. His screen works in mine, so the cable is okay (apart from some minor shielding problem). The bad news is that my panel is bad. Worse news is that I've already started cutting off the tabs, so it's gonna be impossible to return it as faulty.

will have to look around for another lcd.

Andrzej,

What I would try to do if possible, is purchase another that has damage to the LCD screen itself. Then swap over the circuit board. Perhaps your screen is fine, but the electronics are faulty.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#175 Post by andykrej » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:43 am

Yes, I think the screen itself is fine with no cracks.

How would you get about changing the circuit board? I don't see any dettachable connectors.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#176 Post by Mooseifer » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:00 pm

Well, I've finally got a couple of days to myself and I'm putting together my parts list. I have a question on the wire that people having been using and in particular, on the best choice if I'm to minimize interference? Any recommended sources for the cable? I'll be ordering the connectors from Digikey, since as stated earlier in the thread, they seem to be the only source and they do have a UK website, which avoids a few hassles.

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#177 Post by andykrej » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:08 am

Mooseifer wrote:Well, I've finally got a couple of days to myself and I'm putting together my parts list. I have a question on the wire that people having been using and in particular, on the best choice if I'm to minimize interference? Any recommended sources for the cable? I'll be ordering the connectors from Digikey, since as stated earlier in the thread, they seem to be the only source and they do have a UK website, which avoids a few hassles.
Yes, but the parts are sent from US anyway, so you won't avoid customs. I ordered a short DVI-cable from digikey and stripped it to use the wires inside. They are not coax, so shielding is still a problem. Will look into this when I get my hands on a working panel.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#178 Post by rkan » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:25 pm

Will the same cable fit X60 and X61, just if upgrading in the future?
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#179 Post by tcone » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:33 pm

Yes, it's the same cable for all X6x/s.
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Re: SXGA+ on a X60s (non tablet)

#180 Post by rkan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:41 am

tcone wrote:Yes, it's the same cable for all X6x/s.
But the SXGA+ cable from the X60 tablet won't fit the X60?
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