defragmenting volume C

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wisydude · #1 Post by **wisydude** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:52 am

Hi,
I am faced with the following problem. My harddisk is partitioned to 20GB and 50 GB. On the one with 20GB only the system files are, all my working documents are on the other one. Unfortunately there is never more than 4 GB free space on C. Whenever i want to defragment the partition, it is never complete because of insufficient space. There is nothing more to delete from that. Can something be done beside of re-partitioning the volume?
thanks
Wisydude

mgo · #2 Post by **mgo** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:08 am

wisydude wrote:Hi,
I am faced with the following problem. My harddisk is partitioned to 20GB and 50 GB. On the one with 20GB only the system files are, all my working documents are on the other one. Unfortunately there is never more than 4 GB free space on C. Whenever i want to defragment the partition, it is never complete because of insufficient space. There is nothing more to delete from that. Can something be done beside of re-partitioning the volume?
thanks
Wisydude

I use a third party defragger called "Perfect Disk" which will work with as little as 5% free space. Cost is around $40.00 and worth it. Far superior to Windows defragger.

Wiz · #3 Post by **Wiz** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:02 am

I'm not sure what you already removed, but unless you already did so you can move the paging file to the other partition. If you don't use hibernate and that file is present you can disable hibernate and remove the file. That might give you some extra GB of diskspace. How big those files are depend on how much ram you got unless you already changed the size manually. Also if you installed some servicepacks there are files stored on your harddisk so you can uninstall the servicepack. If you know you will never uninstall the servicepack those files can be deleted as well.

Just some tips, but maybe you already did these steps. As mgo said as well some defrag programs work fine with pretty full harddisks. A good defrag program should be able to handle only 4gb free diskspace out of 20gb. That's 20% free and shouldn't be a problem.

john518 · #4 Post by **john518** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:12 am

lookup "JkDefrag-3.33" this is freeware . Also you might try using an external drive to backup some of your files off of the 2nd partition to free up some space.

wisydude · #5 Post by **wisydude** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:25 am

Thanks for all the helpful inputs. Just one question. Looking into the C volume i found a lots of files that are i believe some previous windows installs. I use SP3. I do not plan to go back to SP2. Is there any install files stored there that i can safely delete? Does Wise Disk Cleaner find these not used file?

#6 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:31 am

In your \Windows directory, you can delete all directories starting with:
- $NtServicePackUninstall...
- $NtUninstall...
Don't delete any others!

tourist.Tam · #7 Post by **tourist.Tam** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:52 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:In your \Windows directory, you can delete all directories starting with:
- $NtServicePackUninstall...
- $NtUninstall...
Don't delete any others!

You may want to have a peak at the temp folder under you profile to bin all the installer crap ... -_-''

Tam

john518 · #8 Post by **john518** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:09 pm

n your \Windows directory, you can delete all directories starting with:
- $NtServicePackUninstall...
- $NtUninstall...
Don't delete any others!

aren't these also in the registry? there is a program from PC shareware inc. called "Update Cleanup Installation". You might take a look

wisydude · #9 Post by **wisydude** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:31 am

I have followed everything. I have run the preinstalled DISKEEPER again and beside the defragmented files there are a big red part meaning fragmented files and folders. I have CCcleaner, Wise Disk Cleaner, Find Junk Folders and the red part did not decrease. Is there any solution for it or shall i simply ignore it?

#10 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:24 am

If that's the only one, that big red part is most likely your page file.

wisydude · #11 Post by **wisydude** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:05 pm

Unfortunately not. According to the program (DISKEEPER) paging file should be yellow. There was a yellow part. When i have swithed out the paging file opition in the controll part, it has disappeared.

wisydude · #12 Post by **wisydude** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:35 pm

And above all i get a non-stop error message of MMC modul error whenever i start diskeeper.

#13 Post by **rkawakami** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:10 pm

Another thing to look at if you want to reclaim some disk space is in the "Add or Remove Programs" utility in "Control Panel". Scroll down to the Java entries and uninstall all but the latest one you have (currently, "Java(TM) 6 Update 7" is the newest released version). Each installation of Java takes a little bit over 100MB and it never seems to uninstall the previous versions.

vanaya · #14 Post by **vanaya** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:09 pm

john518 wrote:lookup "JkDefrag-3.33" this is freeware...

Has anyone else tried this?

Sorry for the thread hijack!!

#15 Post by **rkawakami** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:09 pm

Look in this concurrent thread:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=63644

wisydude · #16 Post by **wisydude** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:00 am

But still the question: what is that big unfragmented part of red in DISKEEPER? Page file is switched out.

wisydude · #17 Post by **wisydude** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:57 pm

Can not the RRbackups cause the trouble? I check the defrag log file, and it said that RRbackups was not done. I have read in a forum that Rescu and Recovery can simply be uninstalled. Can it really be done?

boofoo · #18 Post by **boofoo** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:19 am

wisydude wrote:And above all i get a non-stop error message of MMC modul error whenever i start diskeeper.

I got this too after installing SP3; it doesn't seem to matter (you can turn it off).

wisydude · #19 Post by **wisydude** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:02 am

Finally...Following the advises of JKdefrag website, i have run the program in Safe Mode. Everything was fine, big red part is gone, since then Diskeeper works also efficien. Thanks for all the input

Paul Unger · #20 Post by **Paul Unger** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:23 am

Just seeing this today. JKDefrag has been in my toolbox for some time now. [I'm using v. 3.34, for what it's worth.] It, along with CCleaner, are essential for system maintenance, in my view. Glad it helped get you sorted.

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