ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 performance

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StevenD · #121 Post by **StevenD** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:31 pm

Hi, Richard,
Can you post some photos comparing the T60p screens with the W500 screens?

eecon · #122 Post by **eecon** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:40 pm

Regarding the W500 (and the T500 for that matter) ..... Is there any chance Lenovo will offer a faster video card option like the ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3850 or 3870 (instead of the ATI HD 3650 based V5700) before the next model year rolls out in August 2009?

After reviewing the performance specs of HD 3650 based cards, it seems the faster HD 3850 or 3870 series coupled with the new 25W P series processors would work nicely together (with regards to preserving reasonable battery life).

I prefer avoiding the overclocking route as a means to achieving faster 3D gaming performance.

freakwave · #123 Post by **freakwave** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:13 am

Hi Richard,

you are saying the display is much brighter, which one do you have the WUXGA or the WSXGA+ ,

Regards,

Wolfgang

awolfe63 · #124 Post by **awolfe63** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:41 pm

eecon wrote:Regarding the W500 (and the T500 for that matter) ..... Is there any chance Lenovo will offer a faster video card option like the ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3850 or 3870 (instead of the ATI HD 3650 based V5700) before the next model year rolls out in August 2009?

Based on my experience - I would guess it is unlikely. The 3650/5700 pushes the thermal capabilities of this chassis pretty hard. ATI could come up with a lower power follow-on to the 3850 - but my guess is that they would just come out with a faster mid-range chip at the same time with the same power envelope and keep pushing performance at the high end.

Kel Ghu · #125 Post by **Kel Ghu** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:48 am

Can anyone do any benchmark please?

Pascal_TTH · #126 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:07 pm

Kel Ghu wrote:Can anyone do any benchmark please?

Agree ! Can someone run 3D Mark 2006 and post the score with details. Thanks !

awolfe63 · #127 Post by **awolfe63** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:10 pm

I ran it several times (under XP)

2.8GHz CPU
3GB RAM
7200 rpm drive

I got around 3900 each time.

eecon · #128 Post by **eecon** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:05 pm

awolfe63 wrote:I ran it several times (under XP)

2.8GHz CPU
3GB RAM
7200 rpm drive

I got around 3900 each time.

You're a good man .... thanks.

Looks like I'll wait another 10 months to see what Lenovo comes out with regarding GPUs for the next model year. You saved me a couple grand .... and with the stock market tanking like today, I need every bit of that 2 grand these days

Pocket Aces · #129 Post by **Pocket Aces** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:54 pm

awolfe63 wrote:I ran it several times (under XP)

2.8GHz CPU
3GB RAM
7200 rpm drive

I got around 3900 each time.

This is really quite surprising. My T61p has the same amount of RAM and HDD speed, but I have an older, much slower processor and a FX570M, and I get the same score. I'm sure the score will improve with more mature drivers, but this is disappointing.
EDIT: And yes, I'm running Vista (x64).

eecon · #130 Post by **eecon** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:54 am

Pocket Aces wrote:
This is really quite surprising. My T61p has the same amount of RAM and HDD speed, but I have an older, much slower processor and a FX570M, and I get the same score. I'm sure the score will improve with more mature drivers, but this is disappointing.

Are you running Vista?

{ISV-K}SVX · #131 Post by **{ISV-K}SVX** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:11 pm

This has been a very helpful thread. I was considering the T500 or W500, but can hardly justify the 2K cost for little to no increase in graphics performance. About the only benefits I see are the integrated camera, Blu-Ray drive support (which does not appear to fit in a T61p), 1066 FSB, and the wider touch pad. That being said, I suppose I will wait 10 more months as well (unless they release a Tablet with decent graphics).

In the meantime I will upgrade my CPU to a T9500 and the screen to WUXGA on my T61p.

Pocket Aces · #132 Post by **Pocket Aces** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:53 am

Also, comparing the GPU-Z of the V5700 (which thinks it's an HD3650) and the 570M, it seems that the fill rates and bandwidth of the V5700 are actually less than those of the 570M (bandwidth is actually half).

eecon · #133 Post by **eecon** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:46 pm

Pocket Aces wrote:Also, comparing the GPU-Z of the V5700 (which thinks it's an HD3650) and the 570M, it seems that the fill rates and bandwidth of the V5700 are actually less than those of the 570M (bandwidth is actually half).

Yeah, something does not seem "comfortable" about the new W500's price to performance ratio right now. Hopefully it's just driver related which can be fixed with time.

Anyway, I'm going to wait another year now.

Pascal_TTH · #134 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:34 pm

awolfe63 wrote:I ran it several times (under XP)

2.8GHz CPU
3GB RAM
7200 rpm drive

I got around 3900 each time.

Thank you awolfe63 !

http://forum.tt-hardware.com/fichiers/u ... 815827.png

I'am collecting score for a database. Can you please give me CPU, SM2 and SM3 score ?

eecon · #135 Post by **eecon** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:59 pm

Pascal_TTH wrote: http://forum.tt-hardware.com/fichiers/u ... 815827.png

I'am collecting score for a database. Can you please give me CPU, SM2 and SM3 score ?

Here is are 3DMark06 results for my T61 (outfitted per my signature line below):

CPU: T7500 2.2

3DMark06: 1669

SM2: 597

SM3: 599

CPU: 1960

WinXP Pro

NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M Driver Version 6.14.11.7471

Core Clock: 400

Mem Clock: 600

1280x1024

Thanks

awolfe63 · #136 Post by **awolfe63** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:58 am

For some reason - it keeps getting slower.

3DMark Score
3811 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score
1290
SM 3.0 Score
1605
CPU Score
2185

Pascal_TTH · #137 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:50 pm

Thank you awolfe63 and eecon. I will update this chart within a few days.

NaT · #138 Post by **NaT** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:42 am

I'm wondering, how come the ATI 3650 in T500 in another thread http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=67774 (which were originally from NotebookReview: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4565) has much higher value? T500's 3dMark 2006: 4,371 vs. W500's: around 3,800-3,900 value?

comptiger5000 · #139 Post by **comptiger5000** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:18 am

My W500 gets 3969 @ 1280x1024 (3dmark06). The score was taken running Windows 2003 Enterprise.

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