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Beaver · #31 Post by **Beaver** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:37 am

What about to change petition to request more supported hard drives to be added into the firmware ? For all the T4x machines

citizenNB · #32 Post by **citizenNB** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:56 pm

Hi,

Beaver wrote:What about to change petition to request more supported hard drives to be added into the firmware ? For all the T4x machines

great idea. But shouldn't it be easier for all to get a new ThinkPad BIOS version without this st*** hdd check?

citizenNB

ingope · #33 Post by **ingope** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:36 pm

citizenNB

*funny*

PM send to Harryc

Mornsgrans · #34 Post by **Mornsgrans** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:14 am

PM send to Harryc

Thanks to citizenNB for the hint.

Great idea, Harryc - i wish you luck and success.

maculae · #35 Post by **maculae** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:17 am

PM sent...

Greetings, maculae

#36 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:43 am

Thanks to all who've signed the petition, it is alive and well. To date we have (49) signatures. I've made note of all the previous suggestions for petition content, and once we're ready to submit it I will post it here for comment.

citizenNB · #37 Post by **citizenNB** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:57 am

Hi Harryc,

great! I announced this petition in the german Thinkpad-Forum to push it. Hopefully, there are many more signatures in the next few weeks, so you can send this petition to Lenovo soon. Good luck and I hope it is no problem I linked another thinkpad forum here.

#38 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:01 am

Thanks for the link, no problem at all. Also, thanks to our fellow German Thinkpad enthusiasts for their support.

Frank · #39 Post by **Frank** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:08 am

PM sent

Beaver · #40 Post by **Beaver** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:11 am

citizenNB wrote:Hi,

Beaver wrote:What about to change petition to request more supported hard drives to be added into the firmware ? For all the T4x machines
great idea. But shouldn't it be easier for all to get a new ThinkPad BIOS version without this st*** hdd check?

citizenNB

Yes, the second option is to remove the check for HDD and get rid of that error with not supported drives. They can include even the removing of check for miniPCI adapters.

Anyway, PM sent

paolo · #41 Post by **paolo** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:49 am

I dont understand one issue, there are modded Bios Files for alot of Thinkpadmodells whith disabled check for miniPCI Adapters to prefend the 1802 Error. What is different to the 2010 Error, isnt it the same problem (a Whitelist with Harddrives in the Bios)?

#42 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:58 am

The only thing I can think of is that since T43's and R52's have a hybrid IDE/SATA controller/bridge onboard, the original IBM engineers tweaked the firmware on the supported drives to work more reliably with it.

Beaver · #43 Post by **Beaver** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:08 pm

OK, what about this idea:

Let they make FW without any limitations on miniPCI adapters and hard disk drives which you can use after your warranty expire.

You know, the main reason why there are limitations is to prevent some damage to the laptop from some crappy devices to make it as realiable as possible. So, after the warranty it should be void and now it's OUR choice what we want to install and use.

killer · #44 Post by **killer** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:03 pm

PM sent.

Beaver · #45 Post by **Beaver** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:05 pm

BTW, this issue is not related to T40p, right ?

I will not stop the support for the petition, I am just curious if I can swap my HDD w/o any problems.

citizenNB · #46 Post by **citizenNB** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:12 pm

Hi Beaver,

good point. But if you were Lenovo, would care about service like that for an old product which were offered under an other brand (IBM). I think the only way to convince Lenovo is to show them there is big crowd of potential consumer they can loose. (I hope this sentence make sense and the phrasing isn't to much German like

)

citizenNB

Beaver · #47 Post by **Beaver** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:21 pm

I agree. We like the ThinkPads. We want to squeeze them to maximum, but this can not be possible forever, there will be no more CPUs to fit our old sockets and no more bigger PATA drives. We will need some modern machines. But if we stop loving them, we will not buy them in the future. So why to loose happy customer who is probably going to buy a new ThinkPad when his old one die (personaly, I am blinking at T400 in the shops, but IBM is not paying me enough

).

paolo · #48 Post by **paolo** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:49 am

Anyone tested the moded Bios Files from zender for T43 or X4X?

#49 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:01 pm

Now up to 62 signatures. 38 more to go ...

citizenNB · #50 Post by **citizenNB** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:09 pm

Hi,

well, I lose track of the signers number now.

How's it looking?

Nils

#51 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:24 pm

68 total now, including the 5 more from the last batch of signatures from the German Thinkpad forum.

citizenNB · #52 Post by **citizenNB** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:41 pm

Hi Harry,

what's the current state?

citizenNB

Mornsgrans · #53 Post by **Mornsgrans** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:25 am

Harry hat got six more addresses of T43 and R52 - users from me.

.

#54 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:35 am

"Harry hat".

Cool name, I like it ... j/k.

citizenNB · #55 Post by **citizenNB** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:12 am

Hi Harry,

funny typo.

"Harry hat..." is German for "Harry has...". It has nothing to do with a headpiece.

citizenNB

#56 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:50 pm

Now at 82 names....just 16 more needed.

citizenNB · #57 Post by **citizenNB** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:15 pm

Hi,

Harryc wrote:Now at 82 names....just 16 more needed.

82 + 16 = 100? Perhaps, in the USA, but not in Germany!

CitizenNB

#58 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:45 pm

Oh well, you got me. Congratulations.

Mornsgrans · #59 Post by **Mornsgrans** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:47 am

In the U.S. they are calculating with feet and inches, but not metric

.

schimmi · #60 Post by **schimmi** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:24 pm

PM sent^^

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