Core Duo vs. Core 2

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Core Duo vs. Core 2

#1 Post by ibm meister » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:38 pm

In deciding whether to upgrade my 1.83 Core Duo to a 2.16 Core2 processor, I am asking the difference in performance not so much the processor spreed, but the Core2 difference. It was suggested I get a 7200 RPM HD to boost performance, I can agree with that, but what about the Core2 difference. I can get the core2 T7400 for $200

Trying to avoid a new purchase and I like the sxga+ form factor.

3Gb Ram/160-5400

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#2 Post by ajkula66 » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:54 pm

To be able to proceed with this upgrade, you must have a Revision 3 motherboard on your T60.

Having said that, I would find it a worthy upgrade if you're intent on keeping the machine for another couple of years.

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rev 3

#3 Post by ibm meister » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:43 am

I have the rev 3 no problem. So the core2 is worth it. Should I replace HD as well?

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#4 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:56 am

Throw in the 7200rpm drive, and max out the RAM if you haven't already...then enjoy...
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#5 Post by gongo2k1 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:47 am

the biggest reason to switch to core2 would be a 64-bit os.

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#6 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:12 am

gongo2k1 wrote:
the biggest reason to switch to core2 would be a 64-bit os.


But that's not going to fly on a T60 since its chipset doesn't support 64-bit architecture regardless of CPU used...
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#7 Post by aaa » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:24 am

ajkula66 wrote:
gongo2k1 wrote:the biggest reason to switch to core2 would be a 64-bit os.
But that's not going to fly on a T60 since its chipset doesn't support 64-bit architecture regardless of CPU used...
Huh? It doesn't support more than 3gb of ram but there's other things 64-bit does.

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#8 Post by Marin85 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:35 am

T60(p) with Core 2 Duo T7200, T7400 and T7600 does support x64 architecture. However, no chipset in T60s could utilize more than 3 GB of RAM regardless of the amount installed.

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#9 Post by RonS » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:58 pm

ajkula66 wrote:But that's not going to fly on a T60 since its chipset doesn't support 64-bit architecture regardless of CPU used...
I'm running Vista 64-bit on my T60p right now and it works just fine.
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#10 Post by BudC » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:58 pm

I have a T60 2007-76U with a T2500 Core Duo processor running 32-bit Vista Home Premium. I have a 7,200 RPM HDD.

I've been considering an upgrade to one of the Merom processors but I wonder if I'll ever see any noticeable improvement in performance and also worry about an increase in core temperatures.

$300+ for a new Merom is a lot of money and would like to have some feedback on just what I could expect in terms of real world response times.

I use the TP for travel/vacations to surf the Internet, eMail and to capture and edit digital images using PS Elements.

No games, no video editing, etc.

The possibility exists that I could replace the TP with a MacBook Pro within a year.

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varying reports

#11 Post by ibm meister » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:03 pm

So... it loks like the HD is the best shot at a boost of performace. I keep it clean all the time of junk buildup already, have 2 2Gb chips in there already, and it sounds like the jump from 1.83 Duo to Core2 is not the primary boost factor. I can get the HD on EPP for $xxx. Sounds like a ggod option for a while until it's time for a new deal. Would you all agree???


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Re: varying reports

#12 Post by Tony Chan » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:18 pm

ibm meister wrote:..I can get the HD on EPP for $xxx.
You don't have use OEM hard drive.

You can get a Hitachi 7k200 200gb for $112 before $20 rebate.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... e=10005818

Or, better yet, if you can wait a bit you can get the newest 7k320 320gb for around $200 for best performance and power saving.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... e=10008894


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Re: varying reports

#13 Post by erik » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:19 pm

ibm meister wrote:I can get the HD on EPP for $xxx.
zipzoomfly.com or newegg.com would have a better deal than EPP, especially considering the fact that you'd pay tax on an EPP order.

the new seagate momentus 7200.3 series or hitachi 7K320 series are the fastest 2.5" 7200RPM drives available.   i recommend either brand.   size is up to you. ;)
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Thanks

#14 Post by ibm meister » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:55 pm

I guess the HD is the performance boost I am looking for. Mine is 160 5400. I expect the 300/7200 will make a substantial difference

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#15 Post by efrant » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:09 pm

I upgraded my T2500 to a T7400, and I find that having the larger cache seems to make the OS feel a bit snappier.
T60p: T7400, 4GB, 15" UXGA Flexview, V5200, Seagate XT 500GB 7200rpm hybrid, DVD-RW, Atheros AGN, BT, Win7 Ultimate x64
X200s: SL9400, 4GB, WXGA+ LED, 160GB Intel X25-M G2, WiMax/WiFi Link 5350, MC8781 WWAN, BT, Win7 Ultimate x64

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