Thinkpads.com A31P Project - (Pic Warning)

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#121 Post by **rkawakami** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:18 pm

True, you could split up the images that way. There were five boxes available to upload files at the same time so you'd be going through many such passes to get a total of 1GB of data posted. There's also a warning about uploading copyrighted material to your SkyDrive.

Upload size is limited to 50 MB per file. Please respect copyright. Copying or sharing unauthorized materials is a violation of the Microsoft service agreement.

sparta.rising · #122 Post by **sparta.rising** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:21 pm

Alright, since this is something I occasionally am looking for as well, I did a little googling. And a promising site was www.adrive.com . It says you get 50GB free, and I was able to start uploading an 800MB file without it complaining.

#123 Post by **Harryc** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:10 pm

Here's a quick pic -
http://mysite.verizon.net/hjc56/snapsho ... 1399_a.JPG

sarbin · #124 Post by **sarbin** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:46 pm

gotta love the a31p/uxga flexview!

mgo · #125 Post by **mgo** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:57 pm

Harryc wrote:Here's a quick pic -
http://mysite.verizon.net/hjc56/snapsho ... 1399_a.JPG

I am eagerly awaiting the "For Sale" announcement!!

proaudioguy · #126 Post by **proaudioguy** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:33 am

ajkula66 wrote:I've already burned the disks and will be mailing them tomorrow, so Harry will have them on Monday...

Well that answers my next question. I'm out of town so I wouldn't have been able to burn them until Monday.

#127 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:17 pm

Today I received the R&R discs from George. Thank-you!
So tonight I decided to finish up what I had to do on the good working A31P, namely change the CPU to a 2Ghz CPU from the donor machine, and I also had to test the donor LCD. You guys are not going to believe what happened next. I took apart the good machine and swapped the 2Ghz CPU into it. Guess what...BAD CPU!!!!!!!!
It exhibited the exact same symptoms as the original (aka donor) machine. Instant power on then off. So, I 'think' we have (2) good machines here if I get a P4M CPU. I examined the bad CPU under a magnifying glass , and I'll be [censored] if one of the corners didn't have a hairline crack in it. The next decision is where to get a CPU. We do have money left in the budget, plenty in fact. If the members say to buy one I will go for it. Also, I am about to test the donor LCD...just because

. I'll post back with results.

Edit: Ok, the donor LCD works fine, but it has a slight red tint immediately after power up that goes away in 3 to 5 seconds. That is a potential backlight issue. What say you all about the benefits or downside to resurrecting this donor machine with a red tint on power up and a bad CPU? It will also need drives (optical, floppy, and hard), all CDC cards, caddy, battery, RAM, other things I can't think of....

Edit 2: I am going to button up the working machine, and we'll sell it with the current 1.7Ghz CPU unless someone thinks of a reason why that is not a good idea ...

basketb · #128 Post by **basketb** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:52 pm

If there was interest, I could donate the 1.6 GHz P4M I've for sale here.

#129 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:03 pm

basketb, that is very generous of you. We accept

. I'll PM you my address, and THANKS!

ajkula66 · #130 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:52 pm

Once you've proven (hopefully) the planar on the original machine to be good, your best bet is parting it out...will bring more money for the upcoming projects than selling it as a whole...

My $0.02 only....

proaudioguy · #131 Post by **proaudioguy** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:58 pm

I'd love to swap your 2.0GHz FAN for a Fan from a 1.6GHz machine. Mine has a 2.2 in it and seems to work peachy but I'd love to have the faster fan. I can also throw in a 1.6GHz CPU. I may have some other stuff too.

#132 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:00 pm

Well, you've got a point George, particularly after what we've learned about the prices for that systemboard on Ebay ...

#133 Post by **Harryc** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:10 pm

proaudioguy wrote:I'd love to swap your 2.0GHz FAN for a Fan from a 1.6GHz machine. Mine has a 2.2 in it and seems to work peachy but I'd love to have the faster fan. I can also throw in a 1.6GHz CPU. I may have some other stuff too.

I already have the slower fan from another A31 that got parted out, but we'd be willing to sell the high speed fan on behalf of the project. Also, only one of the fans I have has the foam on the intake, so we'd have to ship the fan without the foam. It looks like we're going to end up parting out the donor machine, otherwise a trade would be in the works. PM me if you are interested.

#134 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:05 am

Shouldn't you return the donor machine to it's donor, for HIM to part out?
You're not doing anything with it apparently.

#135 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:11 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:Shouldn't you return the donor machine to it's donor, for HIM to part out?
You're not doing anything with it apparently.

You say this like I am going to pocket the proceeds. Is that what you think? All proceeds go into the forum project fund. That was/is the intent from day one, and nobody has questioned it until you came along. If that bothers the members we'll just stop these projects right now. The donor does not want this machine back, or if he does it was not mentioned to me. I'd be glad to send it back if that were his wishes. Hell, it's less work for me NOT to test this machine.

sarbin · #136 Post by **sarbin** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:15 am

@Harryc...
i agree with you completely.
whether you decide to part out the machine or put time into it in order to end up with 2 saleable A31p's, the end result is the same. more $$$ for the project fund's next project. maybe we'll be able to get into a t6x or some t4x/x6x/r6x models. and, in the end, when the project has run its course, the goal has always been to put the proceeds into forum support. i still support that whole-heartedly and hope it's a significant sum. that's why i continue to contribute to the project in my small way.

just my 2 cents...

virge · #137 Post by **virge** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:10 pm

Harryc wrote:Well, you've got a point George, particularly after what we've learned about the prices for that systemboard on Ebay ...

I guess at this point, the situation is very similar to the R51 project (barebones machine, bad LCD). I think the LCD repair might be worth a shot since that's low cost/high return. The R51 CFL was $20 and a repaired screen has got to be worth 3x that much. Also, the drives and such for the A31 might be more common in packrat stashes.

It might be worth it to do a survey of what parts are available for donation.

I've been meaning to order some tubes and trying CFL repair. Would be happy to order an extra to donate for the project. It will be self serving though-- the repair here will be the guide for my own CFL replacement!

#138 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:38 pm

virge, I like your attitude

. I can do whatever the members want to do. CCFL replacement, rebuild the donor machine etc. I guess in the spirit of a democratic process, I'll give it until EOD Wednesday for more member input, then majority rules. Of course reality says we can't really move ahead until the donor board is tested with a new CPU.

sparta.rising · #139 Post by **sparta.rising** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:57 pm

Do you have any promising machines for the next project? If you don't have anything on the plate, I'd say fix this machine after you put the first one up for sale. If you do have another machine on your mind, part this one out and use those funds for the next.

#140 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:07 pm

sparta.rising, personally I do not have any machines to repair. One member, underclocker I think, recommended a T60 project. I have not had any requests from anyone else to look at a particular machine type/model. So, it sounds like you are suggesting basically the same as Virge. So that's (2) votes for rebuild the donor, and one vote for part it out.

doog · #141 Post by **doog** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:32 pm

I feel that we should do whatever is going to get us the most money for our project fund.
A T series project next would be nice. Rather it be a 42/43 or a 60

#142 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:53 pm

doog, thanks for the comments and project ideas.

The project A31P is now for sale -
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

#143 Post by **KristianJ** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:24 pm

I'd probably lean towards rebuilding the donor assuming that it's just a bad CPU...give a few days for members to respond to what you need to complete the build, and work out whether or not you'll find better value in buying replacement parts that can't be donated, or parting out.

proaudioguy · #144 Post by **proaudioguy** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:02 pm

Could you list all the parts you are currently lacking for both machines? I'll have a look at my pile of parts and see if I have anything of use to you. Also let me know when that A31P goes for sale. It's a disease, I just can't help myself.

#145 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:09 pm

The A31P is already on sale. See the post a couple above yours. As far as parts needed for the other donor A31P -

Hard Drive
Floppy Drive (Ultrabay 2000)
Optical drive (Ultrabay 2000)
CDC cards (Bluetooth, Ethernet, Wifi/modem combo)
RAM (PC2100)
Battery
Hard Drive Caddy
Hard Drive Caddy Screws
A little white connector for the end of the modem cable
LCD Assm or CCFL tube
AC Adapter

ajkula66 · #146 Post by **ajkula66** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:23 pm

Well, obviously I normally wouldn't be in favour of parting out the original donor machine...but:

a) If the planar is good, its value alone is easily 60% of a full-blown A31p in this subdued market.

b) The machine is, at this point, missing next to everything but the bare shell, and needs investments to be offered for sale as a complete unit.

Having said that, we'll all see how the completed unit that is now offered for sale does in an open market, and that should give us a pretty good idea which route should be followed with the other one...

My $0.02 only...

#147 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:03 am

Harryc wrote:You say this like I am going to pocket the proceeds. Is that what you think? All proceeds go into the forum project fund. That was/is the intent from day one

I wasn't accusing anyone of anything.
It was just a suggestion because the mobo turned out to be a pricey item that was not faulty after all.
My apologies for stepping on sensitive toes.

#148 Post by **Harryc** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:27 am

George was the original donor. I've already talked to him about returning the donor A31P. It's his choice, no decision was made.

#149 Post by **schen** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:20 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:Shouldn't you return the donor machine to it's donor, for HIM to part out?
You're not doing anything with it apparently.

I'm certain that everyone has the best of intentions here, however, it looks like there's some possibility of confusion here. Therefore, being one of the contributors on this project, let me (hopefully) start some clarification on this.

Although, it was later found that my (2nd) A31p wasn't necessary, these things happen. I donated my part of this project with complete faith and trust in Harry, in that he would do with the pieces what would be best for the project. I really don't think that many or any of us would have donated to the project if we didn't feel that way.

To put it another way; when I sent the A31p away, I felt that I was sending it to the Forum with Harry as the steward. From there, I'll simply trust him to do the right thing with the resources of the Forum. I'm betting that George has similar feelings, but I'll let him speak for himself.... and hopefully settle this question once and for all.

ajkula66 · #150 Post by **ajkula66** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:43 pm

My dear friend schen knows me well...

Here's the deal, the way I see it:

a) We still don't know whether the planar on "my" machine is good. If it is:

1) I'll gladly sit and watch it sell for a nice amount of money, to help fund the upcoming projects.

2) However, if the offers turn into pittance, being the A31p farmer that I am, I have no problem taking it back and donating a ton of different stuff plus funds to "make even" with this project.

I've given up this machine as a project for money to be made on it, and for all of us to gain and share new experiences in resurrecting it. That's all. If these goals can't be achieved, I'm certain that between Harry and myself we'll come with a solution that is fair to all...

Let's just wait and see:

a) What amount of interest schen's A31p generates

b) How the "original" machine behaves with a new CPU...

And we'll take it from there...

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