Whats the highest speed you can get in a T43?

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i-SnipeZ · #1 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:20 pm

Im curious what the best speed of Centrino Pentium M's are. Its just, the 1.83ghz works fine but getting it up to 2.4 would solve alot of problems (mainly being able to play some more recent games that lock up at the sight of a slow clock speed, dispite the fact that is a small figure when relating to actual processing power *ahemPentium4vsPentium3*ahem

ajkula66 · #2 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:51 pm

PM 780 at 2.26 Ghz

i-SnipeZ · #3 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:57 pm

well that works. I stilll find it halarious how bad the P4 is/was. Seriously, my P3 1500mhz was faster than that peice of crap. Goes to show you brute force doesnt always win.

ajkula66 · #4 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:50 pm

Are you sure that was a Pentium 3 with 1.5Ghz? I've never seen one of those, and I've seen...well, a lot...

i-SnipeZ · #5 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:44 pm

According to System in Control Panel on the T23 its true. Ive seen 1200 but appearantly this one is special xD

ajkula66 · #6 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:57 pm

With all due respect, I don't believe so...

What does the BIOS report it as?

i-SnipeZ · #7 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:01 pm

i checked it says 1.2 but why would windows say its 1.5ghz!

ajkula66 · #8 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:09 pm

I never cared too much about what Windows say...BIOS is the ONLY thing that shows a trustworthy result.

I honestly believe that you've never seriously tested a P4M machine, because a properly set one would blow away that P3M...BTW, I've got both...and love them both.

i-SnipeZ · #9 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:38 pm

Had P4M for a while and unless a program is writen in a way that the P4 likes, the P3 blows it away.

ajkula66 · #10 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:41 pm

i-SnipeZwrote:

Had P4M for a while and unless a program is writen in a way that the P4 likes, the P3 blows it away.

Could you point us to a specific example? What was the machine housing that P4M?

i-SnipeZ · #11 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:01 pm

Dell Latitude D600 1.6ghz P4M vs. IBM T23 1.2ghz P3M using

Futuremark CPU test - cant decifer the smeared ink on results
Flight Simulator 2002 - Dell load time = 22 seconds, IBM = 20 seconds

Call of Duty GotY: Dell load time = 8 seconds, IBM = 18 (game recomends P4)

ajkula66 · #12 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:09 pm

i-SnipeZ wrote:

Dell Latitude D600 1.6ghz P4M

OK, that explains everything...

For a moment I was fooled into thinking that you actually owned a serious P4M-powered laptop...

sparta.rising · #13 Post by **sparta.rising** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:46 pm

Excuse me aren't we confusing P4M and PM? The Pentium 4 Mobile (P4M) processor is different from the Pentium M processor used in the T43 and D600.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4#Mobile_Pentium_4
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_m

The PM was based on the P3M architecture. Both processors have speedstepping, your D600 may have been running at a low clock frequency.

ajkula66 · #14 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:56 pm

I wasn't even looking at the model specs...good catch...

My main point was that when I used to get a bulk of machines that included Dells, these got donated the very same moment...

i-SnipeZ · #15 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:00 pm

sparta.rising wrote:Excuse me aren't we confusing P4M and PM? The Pentium 4 Mobile (P4M) processor is different from the Pentium M processor used in the T43 and D600.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4#Mobile_Pentium_4
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_m

The PM was based on the P3M architecture. Both processors have speedstepping, your D600 may have been running at a low clock frequency.

Nope, not at all. I was comparing the D600's processor vs. the T23's. Im perfectly aware of what the T43 has in it and im curious if there is any reason if any to upgrade it. Also ajkula66 Ive had lots of experience w/ desktop p4's and most p3's still blow them out of the water. They may have solved alot of problems w/ the Hyper Threading but there is still alot that needed to be fixed. And in case you didnt know, Core 2 Duo's are based off of P3 architecture, proving that even Intel knows they screwed up.

ajkula66 · #16 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:13 pm

I'm not following this...

I've specifically asked you which P4M laptop have you compared to T23, and you've quoted Dell 600 which is PM...

So I guess you've never really answered my question...

I don't deal with desktops, nor have I ever. No interest in that subject on my part. And my question was laptop-specific. T23 against ?????

Please spare us all from giving me a lecture on what certain CPUs were derived from...

i-SnipeZ · #17 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:20 pm

ajkula66 wrote:I'm not following this...

I've specifically asked you which P4M laptop have you compared to T23, and you've quoted Dell 600 which is PM...

So I guess you've never really answered my question...

I don't deal with desktops, nor have I ever. No interest in that subject on my part. And my question was laptop-specific. T23 against ?????

Please spare us all from giving me a lecture on what certain CPUs were derived from...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0268788264

thats what i compared it to.

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ajkula66 · #18 Post by **ajkula66** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:26 pm

but that's NOT P4M...

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/dell-la ... 06166.html

It's Pentium M...

dr_st · #19 Post by **dr_st** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:00 am

Clock for clock the PIII is a bit faster than P4. And less power hungry too. Which is why a P4 is in generally considered a rather unsuccessful generation of CPUs, since it was succeeded by the vastly superior P-M architecture.

But even a 1.8GHz P4-M will blow any PIII-M away (while still being less hot and power hungry than a full-fledged P4). And these babies got all the way up to 2.4-2.6GHz.

TTA · #20 Post by **TTA** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:17 am

ajkula66 wrote:but that's NOT P4M...

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/dell-la ... 06166.html

It's Pentium M...

But the eBay auction said it was!!!!

i-SnipeZ there was no such thing ever as a P4m Dell D600

NorrisCell · #21 Post by **NorrisCell** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:58 pm

TTA wrote:But the eBay auction said it was!!!!

I'm glad I didn't have to be the one to say that. No disrespect intended.

i-SnipeZ · #22 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:54 pm

TTA wrote:
ajkula66 wrote:but that's NOT P4M...

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/dell-la ... 06166.html

It's Pentium M...
But the eBay auction said it was!!!!
i-SnipeZ there was no such thing ever as a P4m Dell D600

I remember mine looking alot like that and being a Latitude. ANYWAY PEOPLE. Is their any real speed increase worth noting going up to the 2.13ghz. Im running Vista but i doubt that would make much of a difference unless cache is larger or something along those lines.

sparta.rising · #23 Post by **sparta.rising** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:23 pm

I'd look at the other specs of your system looking for bottlenecks. If you are looking at gaming performance, you'd want to go to a discrete video card (which would require replacing the motherboard). The FireGL cards are not good for gaming. Look for a board with a Radeon X300. Is your RAM maxed? I don't know what the specs on your SSD drive are.

And honestly, with that processor going for around $200, maybe look towards upgrading to a T60/T61.[/b]

i-SnipeZ · #24 Post by **i-SnipeZ** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:13 pm

sparta.rising wrote:I'd look at the other specs of your system looking for bottlenecks. If you are looking at gaming performance, you'd want to go to a discrete video card (which would require replacing the motherboard). The FireGL cards are not good for gaming. Look for a board with a Radeon X300. Is your RAM maxed? I don't know what the specs on your SSD drive are.

And honestly, with that processor going for around $200, maybe look towards upgrading to a T60/T61.[/b]

I would get a T60 but I just got this T43 a couple weeks ago. Im planning on getting a new mobo w/ the X300. The GMA900 is just a little to limiting for my tastes (Call of Duty 4 and Company of Heroes being prime examples (although I can play Company of Heroes anyway I would like to get more than 18fps.)

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