Performance hard drive shootout for our T-series

T4x series specific matters only
Post Reply

Which would you go for, at the same price tag?

Hitachi 7K60 (60GB, 7200rpm, 8MB cache)
41
69%
Hitachi 5K80 (80GB, 5400rpm, 8MB cache)
6
10%
Toshiba MK8026GAX (80GB, 5400rpm, 16MB cache)
1
2%
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 (100GB, 5400rpm, 8MB cache)
8
14%
Western Digital Scorpio WD800VE (80GB, 5400rpm, 8MB cache)
3
5%
Samsung MP0804H (80GB, 5400rpm, 8MB cache)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 59

Message
Author
rhema83
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 338
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:32 pm
Location: Singapore
Contact:

Performance hard drive shootout for our T-series

#1 Post by rhema83 » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:30 am

So we have the most powerful Pentium M processors, the nicest screens, the toughest casings, the best keyboards in the market, etc... What performace hard disk would you put into your notebook given they cost the same at about $150?

Note: No, I didn't make a mistake. The Seagate Momentus 5400.2 100GB is going for $152.11 including shipping and tax, at Dell online!
X61 7675-CTO Merom 2.0GHz 4GB RAM, 7K200 HDD

RS_003
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 416
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:06 pm
Location: The, Netherlands.

#2 Post by RS_003 » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:43 am

Ill take the 16mb cache model :)
I think it will prove it self to be faster then the 7200 rpm's a random read and write. And thats what ill do all day :)

If you are going to rip files and stuf, sure the 7200rpm would be faster.

But as for now I am stuck to a 4200rpm 40gb 1.8" hdd in the X40 :D
But a T42 is on its way with a 5400rpm 60gb drive :) (8mb cache i think)
Own:
X61t

Owned:
X41, X31, T41, T42, X40, X61s
Yes... I love the X-series.

johnson
Freshman Member
Posts: 123
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:33 pm
Location: Kansas City, MO
Contact:

#3 Post by johnson » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:09 am

I have a T23 and I just installed my 7K60 yesterday from a 30GB 4200RPM drive. The drive is quieter (didnt make the loud clicks like my old one) and it did save me about 5 minutes doing a virus scan. The time for loading programs like Photoshop stayed the same or maybe even a little longer :shock:. I was expecting a lot more performance but I really cant say much since I only have 256MB RAM. Next upgrade is a 512MB stick from Crucial.

Edit: It seems like my hdd is spinning all the time and its kind of irritating. I dont remember it doing this on my old one. I used SpeedSwitchXP to turn it off after 3 minutes but nothing happened. It stayed on until the monitor shut off (5 min). Anyone know a remedy?
Last edited by johnson on Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:20 pm, edited 2 times in total.
T23 (2648-1U6) : PIII-M 1.13GHz : 512MB RAM : Hitachi 7K60 : ORiNOCO Gold Classic 802.11b : IBM 1394 CardBus
X31 (2673-Y13) : P-M 1.6GHz : 2GB Crucial PC2700 RAM : Hitachi 7K60 : 2915ABG : BT : Vyper XS Sleeve

pdudas
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Europe/Hungary/Budapest

#4 Post by pdudas » Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:23 pm

Toshiba MK8026GAX is a very slow HDD.
Although it has 16MB cache, it is slower than my thinpad's original Fujitsu MHT 2040AH.

Slower, louder, hotter.
Piece of [censored].

kjarrett
**SENIOR** Member
**SENIOR** Member
Posts: 367
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:33 am
Location: Southern NJ
Contact:

#5 Post by kjarrett » Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:59 pm

7K60. No contest. I love mine!

-kj-
IBM Thinkpad T42p 2373-KXU | 2.0ghz Pentium® M 755 | 2gb RAM | 15" UXGA Flexview | FireGL T2 128mb | 60gb @ 7200rpm | CDRW/DVD Multiburner | IBM a/b/g

JHEM
Admin Emeritus
Admin Emeritus
Posts: 5571
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:03 am
Location: Medford, NJ USA
Contact:

#6 Post by JHEM » Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:43 am

I guess the 9 7K60s I have installed in various machines around here tips my hand as to which I voted for.

Cool, FAST and quiet!

Regards,

James
James at thinkpads dot com
5.5K+ posts and all I've got to show for it are some feathers.... AND a Bird wearing a Crown

raabjerg
Freshman Member
Posts: 121
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:26 am

#7 Post by raabjerg » Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:43 am

I would love to have the 7K60 if I felt I could use it. Unfortunately, the times I've tried it, I found it to be too loud for my ears. So I'd go with the 5K80 instead :-)

RS_003
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 416
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:06 pm
Location: The, Netherlands.

#8 Post by RS_003 » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:49 pm

pdudas wrote:Toshiba MK8026GAX is a very slow HDD.
Although it has 16MB cache, it is slower than my thinpad's original Fujitsu MHT 2040AH.

Slower, louder, hotter.
Piece of [censored].
Can you post some benchmarks or some screenshots from atto or an other diskbenchmark program.

But now i know this: Hitachi 7K6 :)

Only, I am stuck with the 60gb 5400 :( (on my new orderd T42)
Own:
X61t

Owned:
X41, X31, T41, T42, X40, X61s
Yes... I love the X-series.

rideDPU
Freshman Member
Posts: 73
Joined: Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:04 am
Location: St. Louis (school year, DePauw Univ.)

#9 Post by rideDPU » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:55 pm

Chalk up another for the 7k60.
2379 DXU | 1GB RAM | 7K60 | Flexview SXGA | Bluetooth/WiFi (Centrino) | Ubuntu Dapper

Torque
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 430
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:10 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

#10 Post by Torque » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:06 pm

got the 60GB hitachi 7200rpm drive in my T41p. Its fast, doesn't get very hot and I can hardly ever hear it. Only when it spins up at max load. The spin when near idling or working generally in windows i cannot hear.

Så my vote's for that one :D
IBM T60
14,1" (1400x1050), 1,83GHz Core Duo, 64MB X1300
1GB RAM, 100GB 7200 HDD, DVD burner

pdudas
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Europe/Hungary/Budapest

#11 Post by pdudas » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:15 pm

Sorry for my late, but I cannot post any benchmark from Toshiba MK8026GAX.

I sent back the drive, so I cannot test it.

daeojkim
ThinkPad Partner
ThinkPad Partner
Posts: 879
Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:41 am
Location: Houston, TX. USA

#12 Post by daeojkim » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:16 pm

So the Toshiba's 16MB cache HD proved to be very slow and poor performer.

Then there are Hitachi's 5K80 and 7K60. From the reviews I think they had ver similar performances overall.

I don't know about segate 5k100. Have not read any performance reviews.

So my final choice would be Hitachi 5K80 8MB cache. I could use extra 20GB.
* T60 * X61 * X41 * T500 * ThinkCentre A58 *

pdudas
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Europe/Hungary/Budapest

#13 Post by pdudas » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:22 pm


M4A
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:11 pm

#14 Post by M4A » Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:23 am

I would call the Toshiba MK8026GAX slow if I thought the difference between 203 and 199 was significant. I don't, so I won't. It depends. The 7200 RPM is the fastest of the bunch (those nine, anyway), but it's 7200, and it's a notebook, and it costs a little more. It will load programs the first time the fastest, but if you have the memory, the OS cache will handle almost all prior-seen accesses and so the disk, hopefully, comes into play so little that "10% faster" only "1% of the time" is hardly worth the wind noise. But, if all things were equal, of course, the fastest is always the bestest.

pdudas
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Europe/Hungary/Budapest

#15 Post by pdudas » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:18 am

M4A:

It was really slower than the original MHT2040AH.
Slower, very hot (the palmrest vas about 40-45 C°), and louder.

I made a clean restore from the backup DVD, and after that I find slower made a drive copy from the fujitsu.

Both of them was very slow.

I dont know the reason of this slow working, but it was terrible for me.

fb3
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:47 am

#16 Post by fb3 » Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:46 am

M4A wrote:I would call the Toshiba MK8026GAX slow if I thought the difference between 203 and 199 was significant. I don't, so I won't. It depends. The 7200 RPM is the fastest of the bunch (those nine, anyway), but it's 7200, and it's a notebook, and it costs a little more. It will load programs the first time the fastest, but if you have the memory, the OS cache will handle almost all prior-seen accesses and so the disk, hopefully, comes into play so little that "10% faster" only "1% of the time" is hardly worth the wind noise. But, if all things were equal, of course, the fastest is always the bestest.
Probably not relevant, but I installed a Hitachi 7K60 in my Sony K25 (replacing a Hitachi 4K60) and it was clearly faster but it also made the palmrest vibrate and it was nosier, too. Eventually I decided it wasn't all that much faster, for my purposes, and reinstalled the stock drive.

I have given some thought to getting a 5K60 to see if that, too, produces the vibration of the 7200 rpm drive.

Meanwhile, I'm quiet and vibration free. I assume you don't have the same problem with the Thinkpads (I've yet to put the 7K60 in any of my T20/T23 Tpads).

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “ThinkPad T4x Series”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests