few question about T41p/T40p

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few question about T41p/T40p

#1 Post by ircr » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:48 pm

I can get a cheap T40p (1,5 CENTRINO, 40 GB, CD RW/DVD, 1GB RAM, wlan, bluetooth, graphic ati fire gl9000 64MB, lcd sxga 1400x1050).

I have already owned another T41p (Pentium 1700, 1,5 GB ram, 32 ati graphic card), but it had some things that I didn't like:
- no windows key on a keyboard, so I was thinking if i switch that keyboard with R60 or any other?....is it possible?
- is 64MB ati faster than 32MB? ... I use my laptop for programming, playing aoeII (+some light games), listening to music and watching videos in xvid (concerts:) and I hate if videos are freezing or not playing smooth;
- is it possible to upgrade cdrw combo with dvdrw, because it uses ultrabay;
- my laptop had problems with speakers, because it played music much to high
- I like 14'' with 1400 but I think it's to small, what do you think?

I'm now using Z61m, but I think that I liked T41 more. And my z61m is so loud. :roll:

Thanks for answers!! :oops:
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#2 Post by sktn77a » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:40 pm

I'm not aware that the T41p was made with a 32Mb GPU. If my memory serves me correctly, both the T40p and the T41p had the same GPU (ATI Fire GL T2 with 128Mb graphics memory).
Edit: Confirmed on the IBM site (!?) but thinkwiki.org says the T40p had a less powerful GPU that the T41p and less video ram (64Mb Fire 9000 vs 128Mb Fire 9600)

But in case your T41 was not a "p" and had the ATI Radeon 7500 or 9000, then the T40p should be a lot faster on graphics intensive software.
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#3 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:09 pm

You can't replace the T4x keyboard with a T6/R6/Z6 keyboard.

And, T41p was for a fact never optioned with any other GPU apart from FireGL T2. T41 that you're referring to is a standard T41 unit, and GPU on the T40p will perform much better.

As for upgrading to DVD multiburner, all the appropriate FRU numbers can be found here:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-46464

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#4 Post by Beaver » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:44 am

sktn77a wrote:I'm not aware that the T41p was made with a 32Mb GPU. If my memory serves me correctly, both the T40p and the T41p had the same GPU (ATI Fire GL T2 with 128Mb graphics memory).
Edit: Confirmed on the IBM site (!?) but thinkwiki.org says the T40p had a less powerful GPU that the T41p and less video ram (64Mb Fire 9000 vs 128Mb Fire 9600)

But in case your T41 was not a "p" and had the ATI Radeon 7500 or 9000, then the T40p should be a lot faster on graphics intensive software.
T40p has for sure FireGL 9000 with 64 MB memory (dedicated) :wink:

Windows key can be mapped to another key on the keyboard (AltGr is good choice) or you can use the utility for changing the function of "Access IBM" button, which is normaly useless to the Windows key function. But I usually do not use Win key at all...

DVD burner - any burner designed for Ultrabay Slim will work, be aware that you are buying that one with correct face plate.

I have no problems playing the videos, but for music there is allways better to use headphones instead of laptop speakers.
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#5 Post by ircr » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:02 am

On my T41 the speakers were really loud. I often use headphones or some better speakers.

Laptop was really loud and I used TPFanControl, but then the laptop was almoust like overheating. Would it be better if I ordered a new fan from lenovo? And maybe a new keyboard if it will have used keys?

What about the resolution...do you have problems with 1400x1050 on 14''?

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I've also watched T42 (Pentium 1,8 GHz, ram 1024 Mb, 60 Gb, DVD/CD-RW Combo, WI-FI BLUETOOTH, Infra-red, USB 2x, 15" 1400 x 1050, graphic ATI Radeon 9600).

Which resolution is better: T40 with 14'' or T42 with 15''. I like 14'' because it is so small and easy to move.

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#6 Post by Beaver » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:23 am

Regarding the speakers I can say that they are loud enough I need but of course the quality of sound is much better when listening from headphones. That's the common "problem" on nearly every laptop.

About the display - yes, it's true that icons and maybe some text can be a little bit more tiny that you can expect but generally I have no problem with it prefer the laptop to be small and compact. 15" display will show it better of course and T42 will even provide you with more computing power and storage space + it's newer and maybe it will not encounter the common problems with USB 2->1.1 speed drop and GPU problem (fortunately I do not had GPU problem yet).
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#7 Post by sjthinkpader » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:58 pm

ajkula66 wrote:...
And, T41p was for a fact never optioned with any other GPU apart from FireGL T2. T41 that you're referring to is a standard T41 unit, and GPU on the T40p will perform much better.
....
IBM used the "p" quite loosely in some markets. I've seen a regular A30 with 7500 and XGA but with a A30p clear plate. The type and model numbers still indicates a non-p machine.
T60p 2623-DDU/UXGA IPS/ATI V5200
T60 2623-DCU/SXGA+ IPS/ATI X1400
T43p 2668-H8U/UXGA IPS/ATI V3200
R50p 1832-NU1/UXGA IPS/ATI FireGL T2
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#8 Post by sktn77a » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:01 pm

sjthinkpader wrote: IBM used the "p" quite loosely in some markets. I've seen a regular A30 with 7500 and XGA but with a A30p clear plate. The type and model numbers still indicates a non-p machine.
Interesting. The perils of a (not-so) global product!

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#9 Post by sjthinkpader » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:17 pm

For the purpose of our discussions here, those are not "p" products unless indicated by a type and model numbers.
T60p 2623-DDU/UXGA IPS/ATI V5200
T60 2623-DCU/SXGA+ IPS/ATI X1400
T43p 2668-H8U/UXGA IPS/ATI V3200
R50p 1832-NU1/UXGA IPS/ATI FireGL T2
X61t 7762-B6U dual touch IPS/64GB SSD
X32 2673-BU6/32GB SSD
755CDV 9545-GBK Transmissive Projection LCD

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#10 Post by dr_st » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:41 am

sjthinkpader wrote:IBM used the "p" quite loosely in some markets. I've seen a regular A30 with 7500 and XGA but with a A30p clear plate. The type and model numbers still indicates a non-p machine.
Was this how the laptop was originally sold? A clear plate is simple to replace, maybe it was done after the original sale.

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#11 Post by sjthinkpader » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:34 pm

Yes, this unit was sold in Taiwan with a A30p clear plate but basically a A30 in every respect.
T60p 2623-DDU/UXGA IPS/ATI V5200
T60 2623-DCU/SXGA+ IPS/ATI X1400
T43p 2668-H8U/UXGA IPS/ATI V3200
R50p 1832-NU1/UXGA IPS/ATI FireGL T2
X61t 7762-B6U dual touch IPS/64GB SSD
X32 2673-BU6/32GB SSD
755CDV 9545-GBK Transmissive Projection LCD

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