Some advice on a ThinkPad X200s 7466-3SG

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Cecilia76 · #1 Post by **Cecilia76** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:46 am

Hi guys,

I would like to buy the ThinkPad in the title. After some time spent in research I must say that I didn't find so much.
So, the specifications should be these:

TS/Thinkpad X200s Intel Core 2 Duo SL9400, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, TFT12.1WXGA (1280x800), Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD, BTH, FPR, 5in1 MediaCard, Mini-PCIe, Camera, WWAN Ready, Intel WiFi Link 5300 AGN,VB, 7466-3SG, 3Ycarryin (incl DVD recovery XPP)
NS23SIX - 1652069

But I cannot find that machine in the Lenovo web-site. My main questions are:

1. Anyone has an idea about the quality of the LCD panel mounted in this machine (viewing angle, brightness, sharpenss, etc.)?
2. Is the 4-cell battery lasting up to 5/6 hours in normal usage with Wi-fi?
3. Is it possible to mount an SSD drive afterward?
4. Is it really 1.1 Kg?
5. Is it Montevina?
6. Is the RAM running at 1066 Mhz?
7. What about the loudspeakers quality?
8. General usage impressions...

If you have any advice please tell me something.
Cheers, Cec

Puppy · #2 Post by **Puppy** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:57 am

1. Yes, horrible as any other current Lenovo models.

Cecilia76 · #3 Post by **Cecilia76** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:00 am

Mmm, ok..

With "horrible" you mean: not sharp, bad viewving angle, bad luminosity or what?

Do you know anything about the Dell Latitude E4200? 12.1"? I was wandering which one of the two machine has a better LCD..

Cec

Puppy · #4 Post by **Puppy** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:29 am

No contrast (150:1 and less), excessive backlight bleeding, subaverage viewing angles etc.

Cecilia76 · #5 Post by **Cecilia76** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:55 am

Ok, I see.
Any other detailed information on the specified model? I couldn't find anything on Lenovo...

Cec

csv96 · #6 Post by **csv96** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:16 pm

You may want to find another configuration with the 1440x900 LED screen. It's brighter and higher contrast.

My wife has a USA-spec X200s with the LED screen. 4-Cell battery lasts about 2 hours. RAM is DDR3 1066mhz. It's one speaker but the Ultrabase has 2 speakers. Very nice laptop. If it had a webcam and WWAN, I would dump my X301.

Cecilia76 · #7 Post by **Cecilia76** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:14 pm

Ok, thanks a lot. Unfortunately in Italy it's not easy to find such configuration. Do you know if it is possible to mount an SSD afterward?

Cec.

#8 Post by **ZaZ** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:17 pm

I thought all the X200s used the WXGA+ LED screens?

THe X200s uses a regular 2.5" drive. You should have no problem swapping out any 2.5" SSD.

Cecilia76 · #9 Post by **Cecilia76** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:09 am

FredGarvin wrote:I thought all the X200s used the WXGA+ LED screens?

Unfortunately I don't think so: looking carefully at the specs in a seller website I didn't find any reference to the LED backlit, while looking to another model of X200s (1440x900) I found the "Backlit LED" specification....

Good to know for the SSD.

C.

#10 Post by **ZaZ** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:37 am

According to the tabook, they're all LED backlit. I don't know, maybe it's different in Italy.

Cecilia76 · #11 Post by **Cecilia76** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:20 am

Hi,

the one I'm gonna buy (please see the specs in the first post) is 1280x800 and I think that is not LED backlit.
This is VERY important for me: if it's not LED I will buy something else I think. Do you think, in general, that all the 7466-xxx have the same screen? Where can I find more detailed info?

C.

EDIT: Hey guys! I think I found something!!
Could this be the one? http://www5.pc.ibm.com/europe/products. ... esite=cema
Does it have the LED backlit?

Puppy · #12 Post by **Puppy** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:59 am

Cecilia76 wrote:This is VERY important for me: if it's not LED I will buy something else I think

Why ?

Cecilia76 · #13 Post by **Cecilia76** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:44 am

Puppy wrote:
Cecilia76 wrote:This is VERY important for me: if it's not LED I will buy something else I think
Why ?

...well, because as far as I understood (also because of your comment) it seems that non-LED displays are very bad. Isn't it?
Moreover I think that battery life is better with LED.

C.

#14 Post by **ZaZ** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:59 am

I don't know what to tell you. Maybe they have some different models over there in Europe. The description says [b]Screen illumination: Backlit[/b]. Could just be a typo too. These things have a way of spreading when an error is made in one place. Maybe you're best course of action would be to call Lenovo and find out for sure. They should know.

Pes5 · #15 Post by **Pes5** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:13 am

Hello Cecilia,

I have some early experience with exactly that model. So far, I cannot see any reason to be overly critical about the screen, to me it is acceptable. Actually brighter as my T60, less "yellowish" colors, viewing angles less good, but sufficient. With DPI set to 120 p., cleartype font edge, and, of course, back to XP, no Vista, this is what I need to get a quite comfortable viewing. I may post more critical remarks later, once I get more usage-days with this puppy...

Cecilia76 wrote:Hi guys,

I would like to buy the ThinkPad in the title. After some time spent in research I must say that I didn't find so much.
So, the specifications should be these:

TS/Thinkpad X200s Intel Core 2 Duo SL9400, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, TFT12.1WXGA (1280x800), Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD, BTH, FPR, 5in1 MediaCard, Mini-PCIe, Camera, WWAN Ready, Intel WiFi Link 5300 AGN,VB, 7466-3SG, 3Ycarryin (incl DVD recovery XPP)
NS23SIX - 1652069

But I cannot find that machine in the Lenovo web-site. My main questions are:

1. Anyone has an idea about the quality of the LCD panel mounted in this machine (viewing angle, brightness, sharpenss, etc.)?
2. Is the 4-cell battery lasting up to 5/6 hours in normal usage with Wi-fi?
3. Is it possible to mount an SSD drive afterward?
4. Is it really 1.1 Kg?
5. Is it Montevina?
6. Is the RAM running at 1066 Mhz?
7. What about the loudspeakers quality?
8. General usage impressions...

If you have any advice please tell me something.
Cheers, Cec

Puppy · #16 Post by **Puppy** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:17 pm

Cecilia76 wrote:...well, because as far as I understood (also because of your comment) it seems that non-LED displays are very bad. Isn't it?

No, that's just nasty marketing trick. Current notebook displays are crap in general regardless of what backlight type it uses. No difference in terms of quality, it is still horrible TN panels. Some LED backlight notebook panels are even worse than other CCFL ones. Lenovo uses the cheapest and ugliest panels possible (X300 or T400 Samsung ones are great example), if you are looking for so-so acceptable notebook display you would have to look elsewhere. Check related thread here http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=69991

Cecilia76 wrote:Moreover I think that battery life is better with LED.

That's the only valid point regarding LED backlight.

Cecilia76 · #17 Post by **Cecilia76** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:09 am

Is this model anything better?

ThinkPad X200s Intel Core 2 Duo SL9400 1.86GHz,2GB,160GB,TFT12,1"WXGA(1440x900),Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD,Intel WiFi Link 5300AGN,One Button System Recovery, BTH,FPR,Gigabit Eth,VB,7470-5HG, 3Y
NS55HIX - 1672126

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/it/products.nsf/ ... enDocument

(Web page is in italian, sorry)

Cec

csv96 · #18 Post by **csv96** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:18 am

Those are very nice specs. I don't think you will be disappointed if you bought this one.

Cecilia76 · #19 Post by **Cecilia76** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:57 am

Hi,

do you think that the LCD quality will be better than the 1280x800?

C.

#20 Post by **ZaZ** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:56 pm

The extra brightness does help with readability in my experiance, especially on a notebook with smaller text like the X200s has, though I don't think it helps with image quality. I haven't seen one myself, though I'd like to. It's just speculation on my part.

csv96 · #21 Post by **csv96** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:14 am

Assuming this is the 1440x900 LED screen, it is brighter and has higher contrast than the standard 1280x800.

Puppy · #22 Post by **Puppy** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:49 pm

csv96 wrote:Assuming this is the 1440x900 LED screen, it is brighter and has higher contrast than the standard 1280x800.

What indicates it has higher contrast ?

AvalonXIII · #23 Post by **AvalonXIII** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:07 pm

Puppy wrote:
csv96 wrote:Assuming this is the 1440x900 LED screen, it is brighter and has higher contrast than the standard 1280x800.
What indicates it has higher contrast ?

Read the tabook and you'll see

Puppy · #24 Post by **Puppy** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:05 pm

AvalonXIII wrote:Read the tabook and you'll see

I see

There is 250:1 versus 300:1 difference. Comparing to X300 display (supposed to have 250:1) which I have seen having absolutely no contrast at all (50:1 at the best ?) I don't believe such numbers too much

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