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LCD markings

#1 Post by Dow Jones » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:03 pm

Does anyone have permanent keyboard marks on their LCD screens? I have just started to notice a small mark caused most likely by the spacebar that's permanent and would not come off. I do not want my laptop turning into the etched screens typical of powerbooks, so I think I'm going to be using a sheet of copy paper whenever I close my Thinkpad.

It is only noticable when the LCD is off.

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#2 Post by Kenn » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:13 pm

Paper is abrasive, so if the spacebar is pressing against the LCD, the paper probably won't help.

I suggest laying a microfiber cloth along the inside. That way, you protect your screen and also have a safe screen dustcloth available anytime you need it.

You might also try "filling in" the little grooves along the edges of the palmrest - where the display cover's ridges rest when the laptop is closed. That should give you about 1/2mm more clearance, which should be more than enough.

Our 14" T42 gets ever-so-faint keyboard marks now and then - they wipe off and I think it only happens when there's pressure applied to the LCD cover when we carry it around.

The 15" gets moved a lot more, and probably because it's so much bigger, the keyboard has never touched the display.
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Yup

#3 Post by Dow Jones » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:27 pm

I often get temporary markings from some of the middle keys and the eraserhead. I guess this is where the LCD screen is the weakest and flexes the most.

But the minor marking that I have noticed is not temporary. It is permanent damage caused by abrasion.

I have seen powerbooks with really severe LCD etching caused by contact with the keyboard, and I do not want this to happen to my Thinkpad.

The reason why I want to use a sheet of copy paper is because I don't want to look all 'anal" when I whip out my laptop and have to remove a microfiber protector. A sheet of paper is more discrete. heh

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Re: Yup

#4 Post by Kenn » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:40 pm

Dow Jones wrote: But the minor marking that I have noticed is not temporary. It is permanent damage caused by abrasion.
I understand what you're saying. But what I'm saying is that using something as abrasive as a sheet of copy paper isn't going to help this situation - it may scratch the screen even more.
I have seen powerbooks with really severe LCD etching caused by contact with the keyboard, and I do not want this to happen to my Thinkpad.


Yeah, Apple really hasn't done much to address this. Guess they really NEED to stay at 1" thick no matter what.
The reason why I want to use a sheet of copy paper is because I don't want to look all 'anal" when I whip out my laptop and have to remove a microfiber protector. A sheet of paper is more discrete. heh
Heh, I hear you there; we all have our priorities. I keep a microfiber cloth on top of my laptop to protect the matte cover from my laptop sleeve, which I keep in the sleeve of my backpack. I have no problems looking anal, and in fact invite it, since it naturally makes people a little more careful about touching my screen when they're pointing something out, or putting things on top of my laptop. :) To each his own.
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Re: Yup

#5 Post by eriqesque » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:16 pm

Dow Jones wrote: The reason why I want to use a sheet of copy paper is because I don't want to look all 'anal" when I whip out my laptop and have to remove a microfiber protector. A sheet of paper is more discrete. heh

Had you rather pay Upward to over a $1000 to replace the LCD or look anal. Not to mention as the other users have already said the paper will scratch the screen probably worse.
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#6 Post by jdhurst » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:41 pm

I get those marks and they wipe clean away with a soft cloth and clean water. So if your marks are permanent, you might wish to cast back and determine what caused it, because your screen may already be ruined.
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How much do replacement LCDs cost anyway?

#7 Post by Dow Jones » Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:05 am

How much do replacement LCDs cost anyway? I guess if the copy paper scratches it up even more, I might just think to myself then that this is the point of no return, and all of the sudden, stop caring about my LCD. :)

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#8 Post by BillMorrow » Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:30 am

if the marks bother you when using the thinkpad, then upgrade to a newer thinkpad..
if the marks do NOT bother, forget it..

i know, we all want to keep our thinkpads in as perfect condition as possible..
but things happen..

i suggest you balance the annoyance vs. the cost..

if it were me, i would continue to use my thinkpad until it was replaced and then not let etching happen again..

in the past, these marks come about because you pack the thinkpad too tightly in a computer bag..

try a thin screen protector.. thin plastic film that goes onto the surface and protects it from such scratches..
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#9 Post by Elhabash » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:56 am

I have no problems looking anal, and in fact invite it, since it naturally makes people a little more careful about touching my screen when they're pointing something out, or putting things on top of my laptop.
This is actually quite clever psychology. Fortunately people usually don't touch my screen or even apologize when they do. Maybe I was just whining enough... :)
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Clear film

#10 Post by Dow Jones » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:44 am

Does anyone in here use clear LCD film to protect their screens?

Where is the best place to get these? I have Googled, but I want to get some input.

Also, if someone can tell me if this film will affect the appearance of my screen.

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#11 Post by beeblebrox » Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:52 am

check the threat with the "nushield" protection foil.
It was somewhere in this forum.

The result is like a Sony Glare screen.

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