Beer (was Screen resolution question)

[GomJabbar]

At 63 I am what I consider at the top of 'middle age', considering that my families' average lifespan is almost 94!

And to what do you attribute that to ReadlBlackStuff? Real Black Stuff

[RealBlackStuff]

At 63 I am what I consider at the top of 'middle age', considering that my families' average lifespan is almost 94!
And to what do you attribute that? Real Black Stuff

It must be in our genes. Also, the word moderation is written quite big in our family.
And best of all, nobody ever needed to abstain from any of the pleasures in life!

Real Black Stuff is certainly a booster not to be sneezed at!
In Ireland they also give Guinness to 'new' mothers, to help them recover from the blood loss incurred while giving birth!
The fathers drink it to celebrate (or for ANY other reason you care to come up with).

[hausman]

WADR to the Irish, not even Guinness is as good as this:

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[RealBlackStuff]

Aventinus is/was an unknown German beer to me.
I hate most German beers, especially their Pilsner, which I find just as bad and undrinkable as US Budweiser.
I don't mind a Weizenbier every now and then though.
Go to a good pub in Dublin, or best of all, go to the brewery at St. James' Gates,
get your Guinness, and when you drink it, it's like a little angel pissing on your tongue!
Can you say the same about that Aventinus?
Send me a bottle (or 2, or...) and I will let you know...

[Marin85]

Aventinus is/was an unknown German beer to me.

Surprisingly, it´s unknown to me as well.

I hate most German beers, especially their Pilsner, which I find just as bad and undrinkable as US Budweiser.

You just cut into a very political question! To compare most German beers to US Budweiser is worse than breaking all physical laws of nature... Just out of curiosity: what German bier have you drunk yet? Any Bavarian among them? Helles, Helles Weißbier, Dunkles Weißbier, Oktoberfestbier?

get your Guinness, and when you drink it, it's like a little angel pissing in your tongue!

I must have also heard similar things except maybe that it wasn´t an angel...



Marin

[hausman]

I hate most German beers, especially their Pilsner, which I find just as bad and undrinkable as US Budweiser.

US Bud isn't beer and authentic Pilsner is Czech. US Bud is [poorly] flavoured fizzy water with a hint of alcohol To compare it to a German beer (or almost any beer for that matter) could cause an international incident

I don't mind a Weizenbier every now and then though.

Aventinus is a variant of traditional Bavarian wheat beer but with far more flavour and twice the alcohol.

Go to a good pub in Dublin, or best of all, go to the brewery at St. James' Gates,
get your Guinness, and when you drink it, it's like a little angel pissing in your tongue!

With Guinness now owned by Diageo no self-respecting good pub in Dublin would dare serve it.

Surprisingly, it´s unknown to me as well.

That's surprising to me because the brewery is only ~100km north of Munich. Then again, there are already lots and lots of good breweries right in Munich so there's no need to venture that distance for a good beer.

[Marin85]

That's surprising to me because the brewery is only ~100km north of Munich. Then again, there are already lots and lots of good breweries right in Munich so there's no need to venture that distance for a good beer.

Well, for some reason I haven´t seen or drunk it yet. Is is some of these small traditional Bavarian breweries that have their almost unique market share in some "dorf" and then most if it is exported to somewhere? Or is it property of one of the Bavarian or international brewer giants? I wouldn´t be surprised about the latter, because it would be very abnormal for relatively small brewery to (be able to) export their beer without being under the wing of some of the bigger players...

Marin

[Harryc]

Split from the previous thread. WAY off topic.

[RealBlackStuff]

To compare it (US Bud) to a German beer (or almost any beer for that matter) could cause an international incident

About time someone shut that Bud crud down!

With Guinness now owned by Diageo no self-respecting good pub in Dublin would dare serve it.

The brewery you quote in there has exactly two pubs in the whole of Ireland, one of them in the outskirts of Dublin, the other one a tourist trap in the center of Dublin where no self-respecting Dubliner would even enter!

Diageo may own Guinness, but it is still brewed in Dublin, according to the same old tradition, albeit nowadays with the most modern equipment and perfected ingredients.
In my younger days I could drink up to 40 pints of Guinness (ignore the earlier mentioned moderation here).

I have tried most German beers that are available in the Black Forest area. I only ever got 'friendly' with weizenbier varieties and some darker beers. Anything 'hell' gives me stomach acid, although I've been to the Oktoberfest in Munich several times, drinking mostly Hofbrau there. But the Oktoberfestbier is not your standard beer, it has been modified for tourists/non-Munich citizens, and also has less alcohol than normal.

Nichtdestotrotz, eine Flasche Avantinus wurde ich gerne mal probieren!
(I don't have any umlauts on my keyboard)

[Marin85]

But the Oktoberfestbier is not your standard beer, it has been modified for tourists/non-Munich citizens, and also has less alcohol than normal.

Not true. Oktoberfestbier has been always a modified sort of beer for the Oktoberfest, it doesn´t have anything to do with tourists (and btw it´s different from the "Oktoberfestbier" exported to US during the spring if you happen to drink that thing...). Also, Oktoberfestbier has higher alcohol percentage than normal beer has.



Marin

[RealBlackStuff]

Why would anyone want to drink Oktober beer in the spring?
AFAIK the Oktober beer is BREWED in the spring, not the other way around...

[Marin85]

Why would anyone want to drink Oktober beer in the spring?
AFAIK the Oktober beer is BREWED in the spring, not the other way around...

Not entirely. I believe some folks in America consider the Oktoberfestbier as supreme and want to have it all the time. So, something similar to the "October beer" is being exported to US in the spring, but you can´t buy Oktoberfestbier in Germany at any other time than during Oktoberfest. And yes, Oktoberfestbier is brewed in the spring, but that´s the beer only for Oktoberfest.

[hausman]

a tourist trap in the center of Dublin where no self-respecting Dubliner would even enter!

I've been to the Porterhouse on Parliament St. While it's true that there are many tourists there, that's not surprising considering it's in the Temple Bar [tourist trap] district. Nevertheless there were many locals there too, including the people who invited us. If you want to taste really good micro-brewed beer in Dublin -- including their attempt at German Weiβbier -- the Porterhouse is the place to go.

Re Guinness, my concern, based on experience in this part of the world after smaller local breweries were bought out by multinationals, is that product quality may deteriorate. Hopefully that won't be the case with Guinness.

I have tried most German beers that are available in the Black Forest area.

As I suspect Marin would agree, the quintessential German beers are brewed in Bavaria, not the Black Forest.

Prost!

[Marin85]

As I suspect Marin would agree, the quintessential German beers are brewed in Bavaria, not the Black Forest.

Prost!

Actually, I couldn´t agree more! BTW, I checked your Aventinus. Mate, that´s a Doppelbock , something I have to try out in any case!

Prost!

Marin

[hausman]

that´s a Doppelbock , something I have to try out in any case!

Usually that's what I buy but this time I managed to got their Eisbock by accident. Warning: 12% alcohol. (I'd wondered why this batch seemed to pack a greater wallop than usual...)

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Fortunately when imported dunkles Weiβbier and Aventinus are out of stock I can get these direct from the brewery just down the street from my home

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[RealBlackStuff]

If you REALLY want to get a 'hit' from a beer, try and find a few bottles of EKU Culminator.
Of course this too is a Bavarian beer. A few of those and you will sleep really well!
I used to keep mine in the freezer.

[Marin85]

If you REALLY want to get a 'hit' from a beer, try and find a few bottles of EKU Culminator. Of course this too is a Bavarian beer.

Judging by the name (Culminator, Salvator etc. ) this must be quite strong beer...

Cheers

Marin

[mattbiernat]

hmm... anybody in here tried polish beer?

[Marin85]

hmm... anybody in here tried polish beer?

Nope, but I have tried Polish Wódka (the classical Wyborowa and some more, but I don´t remember their names... as well as anything else from this experience ).

[hausman]

hmm... anybody in here tried polish beer?

Tak. Okocim i Żywiec. Nothing special IMO. I understand they brew dark beer but I've not seen it for sale in Canada.

[mattbiernat]

yeah Okocim is discusting but I love zywiec. and polish vodka is the best, at leat in my taste - did you guys try Zobrowka?

[Marin85]

yeah Okocim is discusting but I love zywiec. and polish vodka is the best, at leat in my taste - did you guys try Zobrowka?

+1 for Polish Wodka and +2 for Zubrowka, the only problem is that it´s a bit toxic... but "who wants to live forever"...

[mattbiernat]

really Zubrowka is toxic? good thing that i don't drink that much anymore. i used to drink the most when i was 18 while i was in high school in the states but on vacation in Poland. then once i got to college everybody was going crazy and i was already done with that stage of life...

[Marin85]

really Zubrowka is toxic? good thing that i don't drink that much anymore. i used to drink the most when i was 18 while i was in high school in the states but on vacation in Poland. then once i got to college everybody was going crazy and i was already done with that stage of life...

Here is Zubrowka at wiki. In spite of all, it remains one of may favorite gastronomic drinks...

Marin

[mattbiernat]

so if you are 135lbs you can drink half a litter of that Vodka and still be fine... i don't remember last that i drank half a littler of vodka. do you?

[Marin85]

so if you are 135lbs you can drink half a litter of that Vodka and still be fine... i don't remember last that i drank half a littler of vodka. do you?

Even if I had drunk half a liter of it, that would be a reason why I couldn´t remember this

[killer]

Yesterday I returned from skiing in the Alps and saw this interesting thread. It is quite a task to compare beers ... a bit like comparing apples, pears, and oranges.

The main differences between bitter, stout and lager:

Bitter acquires its red colour from malt which has been roasted longer than that used for lager.
Stout acquires its black colour from heavily roasted malt and barley. It was originally a ploy to avoid Excise duty, and the result was a commercial success.
Bitters and stouts traditionally use British or Irish hops whereas lagers tend to use German, Czech or North American hops.
Lagers are fermented at cooler temperatures than bitter or stout.
Different strains of yeast are used for bitter and stout than lager.
Bitter and Stout are usually served at cellar temperature (15C).
Lager is often served at dangerously low temperatures. (A doctor from Bundaberg in Queensland said that it is common practice there for people to drink quarter pints of ice-cold lager in one gulp. He said that this causes terrible stomach problems, as well as upsetting the body's ability to control its own temperature.)

Enjoy what you like!

[hausman]

Yesterday I returned from skiing in the Alps

Did you drink any noteworthy local brews?

Lager is often served at dangerously low temperatures.

Same throughout North America. Beer is normally stored in the refrigerator or on ice and it's common for glass mugs to be chilled in the freezer before use. This is especially common in the summer when (literally) ice cold beer makes a great thirst quencher. I've never heard of adverse medical effects.

[killer]

Wine was the only decent local brew. The beer is "Eurofizz" lager and very expensive.

Lager is often served at dangerously low temperatures.

Ask any medic and they should know that drinking water at ambient temperature is the best thing to slake a thirst. It may feel pleasant to have a cold drink on a hot day but, counter-intuitively, the reverse is the best solution.

[Marin85]

@hausman:I checked out Schneider and Schneider Weiße, very interesting, indeed seems to be one of the great breweries in Bavaria

Cheers

Marin