320GB pata drive?

[Quicklite]

Hay guys:


Has anyone used Western Digital's 320GB PATA drive? (WD3200BEVE) I'm really close to picking one up, but I'm not quite sure if it will work correctly in my T41.

There is a link:

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trks ... Categories

Its features listed are as follow:

# 320 GB
# internal
# 2.5"
# ATA-100
# 5400 rpm
# buffer: 8 MB


Surely if this is indeed a IDE drive, it will be twin 160GB platter drive? and would it perform as well as Samsung's dated HM160HC due to identical data density per platter?

While replacing WD's own 250GB pata drive as largest 2.5 pata HDD?

[sojourner]

Wow, what a find. Would love to have one to replace the WD 250GB (see sig). Went looking on WD's web site for info but couldn't find anything:
http://www.wdc.com/wdsearch/search.aspx ... =en-US&sc=

Wonder if the drive is so new WD has not posted info on the web site yet!

To answer your question about whether it would work in a T41, my guess would be yes (because the 250 works PERFECTLY)!

[aaa]

It's on newegg.

[Quicklite]

Its pretty impressive, considering that the drive is almost 10 times bigger than those default hard drives, on T41 when first shipped.

Though I cannot find any more info/reviews of this; plus here in the UK, this drive is still rather expensive. same price almost as 500GB SATA ones.

[inspirer]

Hi,

Can i know if this 320 GB WD harddrive works on T43 - 1871 model also?

Thanks in advance!

[ajkula66]

@inspirer:

Welcome to the forum!

The drive in question will likely work, but will trigger a "2010 error" on your T43.

[cmarti]

Hi,

Can i know if this 320 GB WD harddrive works on T43 - 1871 model also?

It will but the the BIOS will display an "Error 2010"

[Ralf Hutter]

It's on newegg.

Yes, it is!

Link for the lazy:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822136345

[underclocker]

That is pretty awesome of Western Digital to offer such a large drive for aging machines. Very nice.

Now there are two great $100 choices for T4x machines - 32GB Transcend SSD or 320GB Western Digital 5400rpm HDD.

[inspirer]

Thanks!

I have gone through the following link and understood the entire issue and impacts:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... &start=420

Was wonderding if 2010 is just an error message or if there will be serious performance issues in long run. I have kind of decided i would go for a supported 160 GB harddisk instead of risking the performance of my laptop.

Any suggestions on supported 160 GB harddisk for T43-1871 model will be appreciated!

[Johan]

Any suggestions on supported 160 GB harddisk for T43-1871 model will be appreciated!

According to the thread NEW Fujitsu MHV2120AH 120GB Hard Drive PATA, no 2010 errors the largest supported HDD on T43's in the internal, primary HDD bay (and not giving the "2010"-error) is 120 GB. You could, however, get the 2nd UltraBay HDD Slim Adaptor (in place of the CD/DVD-drive) and get a significantly larger SATA HDD in a modified SATA UltraBay adapter - as e.g. discussed in the thread T43p and single drive in SATA UltraBay slim enclosure. Nowadays, 2.5" SATA HDD's are available with all up to 500 GB of capacity!!

Johan

[inspirer]

Thanks for your suggestions!

[inspirer]

I'm considering the below HD for upgrade on my T43-1871 model.

Seagate Momentus 5400.3 (Perpendicular Recording) ST9160821A 160GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive.

I know it may show 2010 error apart from that there may be any other issues - any comments are appreciated.

[ajkula66]

Great drives and highly recommended, I've used them in several machines and loved them.

[basketb]

I'm considering the below HD for upgrade on my T43-1871 model.

Seagate Momentus 5400.3 (Perpendicular Recording) ST9160821A 160GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive.

I know it may show 2010 error apart from that there may be any other issues - any comments are appreciated.

These drives (or at least a batch of them) has a problem with the MBR getting corrupt: http://www.google.com/search?q=ST9160821A+mbr
(and, yes, unfortunately, I know this from first hand experience in my A31p). It still works nicely as a second (or third HD) in the ultrabay, though.

[bosco]

I'm considering the below HD for upgrade on my T43-1871 model.

Seagate Momentus 5400.3 (Perpendicular Recording) ST9160821A 160GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive.

I know it may show 2010 error apart from that there may be any other issues - any comments are appreciated.

I've had this exact drive in my T43 for just over 2 weeks now with no problems. The drive is very quiet. I got it from eBay here (looks like there's one left):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0354699443

I've been watching prices and I haven't found it less than $60-65 new, so I felt $70 for a sealed retail package was fair. Also, if you buy from Newegg, or most places, you're getting an OEM drive that only comes with a 3 year warranty. Retail packaged Seagate drives come with the 5 year warranty.

The one I got from the link above did come sealed in the retail package but only had a remaining warranty of 3 years 10 months, so obviously it had been sitting on a shelf somewhere for a while.

Of course I get the 2010 error, but it beeps twice and adds an additional 3 seconds to the boot time. I don't find it a problem.

[Quicklite]

I get the impression these drives are pretty new. Price over in the States of $70 are more than fair, but why is the UK ebay price 70 pounds?

[Johan]

For those interested in this new Western Digital 320 GB 2.5" 5400 rpm PATA HDD, the WD3200BEVE, I just found the datasheet at Western Digital's site --> here... seems to be an "update" of the popular 250 GB smaller brother (WD2500BEVE).

I think I am going to order one of these new 320 GB WD3200BEVE's - here in Denmark they are priced around DKK 739,- (which translate to USD 123). The WD2500BEVE in comparison cost DKK 589 (USD 98) so the extra 70 GB are fairly cheap! I intend to try it in a T42.

Johan

[sjthinkpader]

A week ago, Fry's in the Bay Area had the WD 250GB PATA for $77. I picked one up.

[NorrisCell]

A week ago, Fry's in the Bay Area had the WD 250GB PATA for $77. I picked one up.

Man, that's even less than I got mine from Newegg for a few months back...

I may have to get the 320 and sell my 250, just on the principle.

[Quicklite]

Anyone feeling like uploading HD tune benchmark of this drive?

[kernel77]

Hy there,

I got a huge(?) problem with the WD2500BEVE.

Before buying I looked at google if there were known problems withe the T41 an LB48 stuff - and like in this Forum people didn't have problems - even more - there are people with even bigger (320) HDD.
But to be sure I did call the Lenovo Hotline and got an OK.

Now I installed the drive and my T41 only recognizes 128GB.

After that I updated the EMbedded components to 3.04 and the BIOS to 3.23 and tried to reinstall WXP - but the T41 STILL doesn't recognize the entire HDD.

What have you guys done to get a 320/250/160GB HDD work in your T41?

By the way - the Lenovo Support moves back in this question - the WD2500BEVE are not officially supported by Lenovo and they reject any respnsability in this case!

May you help me please?

Bye
Christoph

[Johan]

Welcome to the forum, Christoph!

... by the way, many people, like now you, first sign up with the forum when they have a problem, so now we have to work hard to make you hopefully happy again!

While I have never used any T41's (I am a T42/p'er!), I don't know much about the problem(s) with large HDD's in T41, but what I do know is that several people here are using the WD2500BEVE in T41's; see e.g. HDD noise, both sides caddy? and see the signature of member sojourner - whatever post, say --> this (which is in this very thread, just a bit up!). In other words, it shall be possible, also in your T41!

What to do to get on? I suggest you send a PM (Private Message) to sojourner... and ask if there are any secret tricks you should do?

Johan

[pianowizard]

Now I installed the drive and my T41 only recognizes 128GB.

I ran into the same problem when installing the IBM WinXP recovery discs on the 250GB HDD of my R50p, which is almost the same as the T41. It turns out that version of XP didn't include any service pack. You're probably using the same recovery discs that I used. What you need to do is to update Windows XP to Service Pack 2 or 3, and then use a software like Partition Logic (which is free) to increase the size of the primary partition to fill the rest of the hard drive.

[kernel77]

Hy Johan,

thank you for your introduction!

Bye the way - the signatures of forum Users were the reason I had some confidence to get it working - but I got to say that the support from Lenovo was really more than disgusting!!

Pianowizard did get the point with his idea of an old XP-Installation-CD - I updated every SP, and updated the drivers with te Lenovo system Update and it worked out fine! Thank you for that Pianowizard!!

I think I don't have to bother sojourner

Thank you for your fast and competent help - you finally made me happy again!

Have a nice Weekend
Christop

[Nameless]

I ran into the same problem when installing the IBM WinXP recovery discs on the 250GB HDD of my R50p, which is almost the same as the T41. It turns out that version of XP didn't include any service pack. You're probably using the same recovery discs that I used. What you need to do is to update Windows XP to Service Pack 2 or 3, and then use a software like Partition Logic (which is free) to increase the size of the primary partition to fill the rest of the hard drive.

Windows XP RTM (release to manufacturing, no SP) did not support 48-bit LBA (logical block addressing), only 28-bit LBA. In XP, 48-bit LBA support did not come until SP1a. 28-bit LBA is the reason why >128 GiB hard drives are not seen properly.

You should NOT try to make a partition >128 GiB on a system that does not support 48-bit LBA. If you try to access the drive space in that upper region, the LBA will wrap back around (or alias) to the beginning of the disk, and you will VERY likely get data corruption or corrupted boot sector.

The 128 GiB (137GB) limit comes about because HD sectors are 512 bytes (2^9) long, and if you can address 2^28 sectors, 2^9 * 2^28 = 2^37 = 128 GiB.

48-bit LBA also requires BIOS support. Everything since at least the T43/p had BIOS support for it.

For more info on 48-bit LBA: http://www.48bitlba.com

For more info on slipstreaming service packs into XP install disks:
nLite
RyanVM Integrator

Don't know how an SP could be slipstreamed into the recovery CDs, but when I reinstall the OS on my TP next time I'm doing a generic Windows install, not recovery CD's because I don't want all of IBM's bloatware. Maybe someone else here could suggest a method to slipstream or integrate a SP into the recovery CD.

[kernel77]

Hy nameless,

the problem was, that I tested the 48-bit LBA with the 48bitlba.com Testtool - and the key was set (btw it should be - since Win XP) - and I had the statement (later recalled) from the Lenoco Support, that it could handle the WD2500BEVE.

I installed WXP with a proper WXP-CD (No recovery) but indeed t had no Servicepack included.

If you want to slipstream SP2 into your WXP-CD you can follow the instructions on

http://www.heise.de/ct/faq/hotline/04/21/62.shtml

It's german.

I putted int into Babelfish and think that the translation is quite comprehensible (boat=boot):

http://tinyurl.com/cyg46r

Have a nice week-end
Christoph

[Nameless]

Hy nameless,

the problem was, that I tested the 48-bit LBA with the 48bitlba.com Testtool - and the key was set (btw it should be - since Win XP) - and I had the statement (later recalled) from the Lenoco Support, that it could handle the WD2500BEVE.

I installed WXP with a proper WXP-CD (No recovery) but indeed t had no Servicepack included.

If you want to slipstream SP2 into your WXP-CD you can follow the instructions on

http://www.heise.de/ct/faq/hotline/04/21/62.shtml

It's german.

I putted int into Babelfish and think that the translation is quite comprehensible (boat=boot):

http://tinyurl.com/cyg46r

Have a nice week-end
Christoph

But do those instructions for IBM recovery CD's? Actually, if the recovery CD includes a Windows XP i386 directory with all the files in it (like a generic XP disc) then the tools I listed above would do the job. Of course you wouldn't be able to use their turn-key ISO generation, and maybe that's where your site would come in handy.

[JHaislet]

Quick question about the Western Digital WD3200BEVE 320GB 5400 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Notebook Hard Drive:
Has anyone installed one of these as the main drive in a T43?
I've got a 100GB Hitachi 7K100 that's just about full.
I no longer use my T43 as a desktop replacement so I don't need the speed, but do need to start using it for photo storage when traveling.
I have a "genuine IBM" Ultrabay HDD adapter, but would really like to just replace the main 100GB with this 320GB as it will give me much better battery life.
Any experience with this setup? I know about the 2010 error and that it can be disabled in the bios.

[Johan]

@ JHaislet:

I wish I could reply specificly to your question, but unfortunately I cannot, since I am a "T42'er". However, I just wanted to report here that I received one of these WD3200BEVE HDD's the other day, and installed it in a T42p. Initialized, partitioned, formatted, and then cloned it (using Acronis True Image ver. 9), all under Win XP Pro SP2, everything went with no problems. The T42p'er "sees" all 320 GB (300 GB binary, as usual), so no BIOS limitation with respect to that size.

I have now run with it for a couple of days, and the initial observations is that it is quite fast and cool, although I cannot say for sure whether or not it has a slight amount of periodical "whooosh" (seeking or calibration?) noise; not the clicking noise that some WD HDD's have been known to have... but still something clearly audible, for noise-picky users such as I!

I hope to return later with some more feedback. But, the message for now: This drive works OK in a T42 under Win XP Pro SP2.

Johan