Hibernate on X61s in Vista 64bit

[Speeder.dk]

Hey ppl...

I've an issue getting hibernate to work on my x61s. Each time I choose Hibernate in the shutdown menu, it says "Locking your computer" and then brings me to the screen where you can unlock the pc again, but no hibernation.

I tried the advice given in other threads, like "powercfg.exe /hibernate on" and deleting the hibernate file from Disk Cleanup.

I have a clean version of Vista Business 64bit installed. I have removed Power Manager and ACPI driver, reinstalled it, but to no avail. I tried to use the retail Intel driver for my X3100, and the regular Lenovo driver.

I've kind of run out of other things to try out here

Thanks for any advice given

/Speeder

[Marin85]

That seems to be a common problem. You can try following, but I don´t know for sure whether it will work for you:
1. Lenovo Power Manager -> Global Power Settings -> try playing with the events (like what happens when closing the lid or pressing windows start menu power button). It may have some effect for your hibernation problem too.
2. Scan with some decent reg cleaner like CCleaner (freeware) or Registry First Aid (RFA, shareware). Then search through the results for something that might be related to what the hibernation/lock buttons do and clean only them. (Note if you clean all suggested results in the scan, you will probably end with broken system).

Hope this helps

Marin


EDIT: Also, check for BIOS updates from Lenovo that might be related to similar issues.

[Speeder.dk]

Thanks for the suggestions . I've used CCleaner before, and just checked again, nothing related to power/hibernation. I went through Power Manager's settings and checked actions for closing lid e.g. I'm pretty sure hibernation worked when I used the preloaded Vista x86.

I'm using the latest (7NETB9WW 2.19) BIOS...

/Speeder

[Marin85]

Maybe off-topic, just an observation: there have been recently a few threads about exactly the same issue and I suggested all of them to check out with CCleaner, and they all replied that they had already used CCleaner... My point is only that the built-in reg cleaner in CCleaner cannot be fully trusted, it can break (and in many cases it does break) various things in the setup, so handle with care...

Marin

[Aroc]

Hello -

Are you on SP1 for Windows Vista Business x64? Did you use the recovery media from Lenovo or did you use Microsoft's media+key then supplied the drivers? Do you have any third party device drivers loaded (printers, PDAs, mice, dvd writers or anything else not supplied by Lenovo)? Sometimes those are the culprit as they may not support the suspend or hibernate states even if the hardware is not connected.

Also typically when I call Lenovo for support, they me uninstall the hotkey driver when I'm removing a lenovo device driver (like the ACPI power manager, the wireless drivers, or bluetooth, etc). There seems to be a dependancy on some of those with the hotkey driver. I can't say conclusively, however I have noticed Lenovo suggests removing and reinstalling it as well.

I would say try this:

1.Uninstall any non-lenovo drivers.
2.Manually reboot. (Lenovo's suggestion)
3. Uninstall Power Management Driver. Don't reboot (Lenovo's suggestion)
4. Uninstall Hotkey driver. Don't reboot (Lenovo's suggestion)
5. Uninstall any other Lenovo drivers you feel may be the culprit.
6. Leave Power Manager and Access Connections alone.
7. Manually reboot.
8. Click 'Cancel' at the 'Found new hardware' dialog.
9. Install the Power Management driver. Don't reboot.
10. Install the Hotkey driver. Don't reboot.
11. Install the remaining missing Lenovo device drivers.
12. Manually reboot.

If that fails, it might be best to cut to the chase and either call Lenovo support or perform a factory restore using the Lenovo restoration media (you can do a custom restore, if the recovery partition is intact). Maybe someone else has a different idea.

Typically we find the user has installed something that upset the computer.

[Speeder.dk]

Sry for not replying... And thanks for the suggestions ... I've just gone through Aroc's steps again with no result.
And Marin, yeah it's great fun to brick your pc, when you think you're doing somthing good cleaning out the registry (I've done that years ago)...

I'll contact support first thing in the morning...

[Aroc]

Sorry, I missed the part you were you said you did a clean installation in the original post. I did recall having some problems with the original Windows Vista Business x64 (both retail media, and the Lenovo Rescue and Recovery Media) with hibernate (it would drain a lot of battery life). The sleep states seemed to work OK. Performing a fresh install of x64 from the R&R media, then applying SP1, and applying the latest Lenovo updates seemed to have corrected the problem I was seeing. I didn't have a problem as severe as yours, however. I tend to favor using the RNR media and the Lenovo drivers, where possible. I get less "odd" behavior that way.

[Marin85]

And Marin, yeah it's great fun to brick your pc, when you think you're doing somthing good cleaning out the registry (I've done that years ago)...

So did I. I had to reinstall XP, but instead simply moved on to Vista, and now I´m happy Win 7 x64 user (and I don´t use reg cleaners the way I used to do...)

[Speeder.dk]

Right, so I called Lenovo and told them detailed about this issue, he had no further recommendations than those given above... So I'm in the middle of using the recovery medias atm.
Thanks for the help though...

[Aroc]

thanks. do let us know the outcome (whether hibernate works or not).

[Speeder.dk]

Aroc, hibernate works just fine with the preinstalled image... But it annoys me that 86 processes are running and I have to uninstall a lot of those to get a smooth system again... But now I know it works, so retail Vista will be put on again ...

Sigh, one dreams of using OpenSuse again

[Marin85]

The amount of running processes shouldn´t be really bothering you ...unless you want every possible bit of RAM... But I agree, things that one doesn´t use or need have no place on a decent setup... That´s why I always take my time to perform a clean install.

Cheers,

Marin

EDIT:typo..

[Aroc]

Remember you can do a custom restore of the O/S from the RNR partition on the hard disk. If you leave off the performance hungry apps (Primary Maintenance Manager, since it schedules the defragger. And Norton's Security Suite) you should be OK. But you can deselect as many pre-install applications as you want. Many of them are idle so the net effect is they are simply using a small amount of memory (likely paged out to disk) and negligible CPU. These aren't the same OEM programs that came with a cheap Compaq Celeron 400Mhz with 48MB RAM. I think that's where some of the geek community angst against the number of processes came from. But you can do a custom restore from the RNR partition if you want to limit what gets installed with the OEM preload. That's normally what I do. I tend to keep Active Protection (acceleratometer stops the hard disk to protect against shock to the chassis), Access Connections, Power Manager, and Presentation Director while deselecting the rest and let RNR do its thing with the preload. It also keeps the O/S in its factory preactivated state.

[Marin85]

Correct me if I´m wrong, but with Vista OS there isn´t the custom restore option in R&R anymore.

[Aroc]

Correct me if I´m wrong, but with Vista OS there isn´t the custom restore option in R&R anymore.

That is incorrect. With both Windows Vista Business x64 and x86 R&R Media from Lenovo, the option for a custom restore is present. I just tested it on x64, and it does, in fact, work.

1. Boot to ThinkVantage. Press F11
2. Under "Rescue and Restore" dialog click "Restore your System".
3. At Step 1 select radio button Restore my hard drive to the original factory state. Click Next. Skip Step 2.
4. At Step 3 select radio button "I do not want to save any files click Next. Skip Steps 4 and 5. Just click "Next" at Step 6.
5. At the Lenovo Base Software Selector dialog, click "Next."
6. Accept the License Agreement.
7. At the Type of Recovery dialog, the default setting is radio button "Full Factory Recovery", click radio button "Custom Factory Recovery" instead, then click Next.

The custom restore is still there. It should be self explanatory at that point (uncheck whatever options, e.g. Norton, various ThinkVantage Utilities, Adobe Reader, PC Doctor, etc).

[Marin85]

Thanks for your input! It´s actually great that the custom restore option is back (?). I might be wrong (again ), but I believe that it wasn´t there all the time. If I remember correctly, the custom restore option wasn´t present for Vista about an year and something ago, but I´ll check that out. I still have my old Lenovo Vista recovery DVDs and a spare HD to test it

Cheers,

Marin

[Aroc]

I received my R&R discs on Feb 2008 and July 2008 respectively. So perhaps, like you suggest, it wasn't there all along.