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ThinkPad · #1 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:15 pm

Picked up a T-41 at a great price. Its awesome, though I think the keyboard is a little flimsy compared to my T-30, but its alot thinner and much longer battery life so thats a plus. The wireless function is great.

My First question is can I take one 512 ram card from my T30 and install it in my T41? I opened the back and there is room for only one card, whereas my T30 has two. Is there a card installed somewhere else in the computer?

Here are some pics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/ ... C01052.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/ ... C01053.jpg

sugo · #2 Post by **sugo** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:33 pm

Another RAM slot is under the keyboard.

ThinkPad · #3 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:40 pm

Which size memory card is under the keyboard

Skywing · #4 Post by **Skywing** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:51 pm

whichever memory comes stock is the memory under the keyboard

ThinkPad · #5 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:05 pm

How do I tell which one is built in? Is it the 512 or a 256? I have 768 total. and want to swap out the lower with a 512 card.

sugo · #6 Post by **sugo** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:12 pm

Take out one of them and see how much you have left.

ThinkPad · #7 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:27 pm

I just took the card under the computer out and there is 512 RAM currently, so this one is 256. Im going to swap the 512 from my T30 and see what happens.

ThinkPad · #8 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:34 pm

Sweet, I now have 1gig of RAM

But My T30 is 2Ghz, my T-41 is 1.6 Mhz

senthoor · #9 Post by **senthoor** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:44 pm

Thinkpad wrote:But My T30 is 2Ghz, my T-41 is 1.6 Mhz

I.6 Mhz or Ghz?

JHEM · #10 Post by **JHEM** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:47 pm

Thinkpad wrote:But My T30 is 2Ghz, my T-41 is 1.6 Mhz

Yes, but your T41 is almost two times faster than your T30.

You understand that, right?

Regards,

James

ThinkPad · #11 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:49 pm

Can I upgrade anyhow?

ThinkPad · #12 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:51 pm

JHEM wrote:
Thinkpad wrote:But My T30 is 2Ghz, my T-41 is 1.6 Mhz
Yes, but your T41 is almost two times faster than your T30.

You understand that, right?

Regards,

James

I thought Ghz was faster then Mhz

JHEM · #13 Post by **JHEM** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:54 pm

Thinkpad wrote:

Can I upgrade anyhow?

1600MHz = 1.6GHz

Regards,

James!

ThinkPad · #14 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:57 pm

How is 1.6 Ghz faster than 2.0 Ghz in my T30?

senthoor · #15 Post by **senthoor** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:57 pm

1600 Mhz is 1.6 Ghz. So you have a T30 with 2 Ghz and T41 with 1.6 Ghz. And yes T41 is faster because T41 must be using a Intel Mobile processor which has a one of the best architecture for mobile computing. You can't compare a normal Pentium Processor and a Pentium M processor only by the clock speed and come to any conclusion which is better.

In my weblog I had few links about Pentium Centrino processors. Check it out.

http://www.senthoor.com/weblog/2004/11/ ... -bits.html

senthoor · #16 Post by **senthoor** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:01 pm

Thinkpad wrote:How is 1.6 Ghz faster than 2.0 Ghz in my T30?

Here are some benchmarks I did. Hope this might help you to clarify your doubt.

http://www.senthoor.com/weblog/2004/11/ ... hmark.html

MadeInJapan · #17 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:13 pm

My T-30 is also Pentium M 2.0GHz...not just any 'ole pentium. So, I agree with ThinkPad....the T30 will be faster. One reason, that for the money, I got a T30. However the 1GB of RAM will make the 1.6Ghz seem faster if you're multi-tasking. Am I right or am I wrong?

ThinkPad · #18 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:16 pm

Interesting weblog info.
My T-30 is also a pentium M. I guess the Centrino is a little slower than then regular M

JHEM · #19 Post by **JHEM** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:17 pm

Thinkpad wrote:How is 1.6 Ghz faster than 2.0 Ghz in my T30?

I understand your confusion about Intel's processor speeds, but you can't compare the PentiumM 1.6GHz in your T41 with the 2GHz Pentium 4M in your T30, they're completely different processors. You're comparing apples and oranges, not apples and apples.

Have a look at this: http://www.intel.com/performance/mobile ... rience.htm and it will help to explain things a little.

Regards,

James

JHEM · #20 Post by **JHEM** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:18 pm

MadeInJapan wrote:My T-30 is also Pentium M 2.0GHz...not just any 'ole pentium. So, I agree with ThinkPad....the T30 will be faster. One reason, that for the money, I got a T30. However the 1GB of RAM will make the 1.6Ghz seem faster if you're multi-tasking. Am I right or am I wrong?

You're wrong.

Regards,

James

Champ · #21 Post by **Champ** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:18 pm

You can get centriono on a t30? whoa

hopefuly i can upgrade my t42 later on then

JHEM · #22 Post by **JHEM** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:19 pm

Thinkpad wrote:My T-30 is also a pentium M. I guess the Centrino is a little slower than then regular M

There's no such thing as a PentiumM T30. It's a Pentium 4M, which is a completely different processor.

The first PentiumM Thinkpad was the T40.

Regards,

James

senthoor · #23 Post by **senthoor** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:23 pm

T30 might be having a Pentium M which is a modified version of Pentium 4 processor to suit the mobile market, but I am 100 % sure its not a Centrino processor. Pentium M 2 Ghz was released by Intel somewhere in 2002

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/ ... 24comp.htm

Centrino 2.0 GHz came only in end of 2004. Clock Cycle doesn't mean much anymore. And by comparing the clock cycle of two processors you will not be able to tell which is faster. Specially because the new Centrino's (Dothan) comes with 2 MB L2 cache.

sugo · #24 Post by **sugo** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:24 pm

Kudos to intel for spreading this "more MHz is faster" business

senthoor · #25 Post by **senthoor** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:29 pm

I think first one to break that perception was AMD, and now intel themselves are breaking it with Centrino and Itanium. There is much more to a processor performance than clock speed.

MadeInJapan · #26 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:34 pm

I have been corrected.....and educated.

I do so much love my T30 though....

JHEM · #27 Post by **JHEM** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:35 pm

senthoor wrote:Centrino 2.0 GHz came only in end of 2004. Clock Cycle doesn't mean much anymore. And by comparing the clock cycle of two processors you will not be able to tell which is faster. Specially because the new Centrino's (Dothan) comes with 2 MB L2 cache.

All "Centrinos" are PentiumMs, but all PentiumMs are not Centrinos!

Centrino is a marketing term invented by Intel that denotes a PentiumM based machines that contains the processor, an Intel chipset and an Intel WiFi mini-PCI card. My T40 is NOT a Centrino solely because I use the IBM (Atheros) WiFi card and not the Intel card, that's the only difference between my machine and a Centrino machine.

The 2.0GHz mobile CPU introduced by Intel in 2002 was a Pentium 4M, not a PentiumM.

Regards,

James

JHEM · #28 Post by **JHEM** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:39 pm

senthoor wrote:T30 might be having a Pentium M which is a modified version of Pentium 4 processor to suit the mobile market

The PentiumM processor is actually based on the PIII processor.

The Penitum 4M processor in the T30 and other Thinkpads is a modified Pentium 4.

Regards,

James

ThinkPad · #29 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:45 pm

Learn new things everyday. I think you are right, my T30 is a Pentium 4 M and my T-41 is a Pentium M

#30 Post by **jdhurst** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:34 pm

My T41 1.8 GHz Dothan Pentium M is much (and I mean very much) faster than my T30 2.0 GHz Pentium 4 Mobile was. Both machines have (had) 7200 rpm hard drives; both have (had) 768Mb of ram. ... JD Hurst

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