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WIndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#1 Post by Harryc » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:25 pm

I found a thread with what seems like a viable solution for a 3D accelerated driver in Windows 7. I am running this on an R51 and so far it works well, but I have not tested much yet. It is actually the Vista 7500 driver but slightly modified.
Reference thread:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/for ... 9c/#page:2

Instructions:
Download and unzip this file into it's own folder. Remember the location.
http://mysite.verizon.net/hjc56/files/ati_7500.zip

Start button, right click on 'Computer', select properties, then device manager.
Under 'display adapters' , right click on the VGA adapter, then select 'update driver software'
Select 'browse my computer for driver software'
Select 'let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer'
Select 'have disk'
Browse to the folder the drivers were zipped into above
Ignore all warnings and follow any prompts
Reboot

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Re: WIndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#2 Post by sojourner » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:55 am

Thanks for the post Harryc. Have not tried those drivers but have been using these for some time with good success: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-41918

Wanted to post some benchmarks for the drivers I use, perhaps others can post their results and we can find the 'ultimate' T and X series drivers.

SOFTWARE: Wintune 98 (v1.043)
SCORES:
Video 2D = 62.4277 MPixels/s
Direct3D = 162.7854 MPixels/s
OpenGL = 111.564 MPixels/s

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Re: WIndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#3 Post by lifrancis » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:32 am

Thanks for the link. There is slight improvement in video performance, Google Earth can now work properly. Also, with the proper ATI driver, sleep mode is operating again.
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Re: WIndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#4 Post by lifrancis » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:23 pm

Interesting comparison:
SOFTWARE: Wintune 98 (v1.032)
___________Harryc Driver_______________________sojourner Driver
Video(2D)__54.88245 MPixels/s__________________54.58609 MPixels/s
Direct3D___160.6723 MPixels/s__________________311.3054 MPixels/s
OpenGL____47.48782 MPixels/s__________________142.6927 MPixels/s

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T30 (2366-86U): 2.0GHz, 1.25 GB mem, 100 GB HD, DVD RW, Broadcom b/g wifi, Win XP/Ubuntu
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Re: WIndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#5 Post by lifrancis » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:42 pm

Good benchmark test results can mean absolutely nothing, if it does not perform in real life. In this case, using sojourner's driver suggestion, I got the BSOD twice while opening Google Earth. So, back to Harryc's driver suggestion, until I can find something better.
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Re: WIndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#6 Post by sojourner » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:11 pm

lifrancis, what Google Earth version are you using? Also, v4.?? will not even install on my setup, keeps giving some error. Did you have any trouble installing?

EDIT: just tried the altered Vista drivers and receive an error "Access is denied", they won't install !!
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#7 Post by lifrancis » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:57 pm

For my Win 7, I am using Google Earth 5.0.11733.9347, with DirectX 9. For Win XP, I use the pro version. Since the Win 7 is not my working platform, I just installed the free version on it.
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Re: WIndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#8 Post by GomJabbar » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:36 pm

sojourner wrote:EDIT: just tried the altered Vista drivers and receive an error "Access is denied", they won't install !!
Try turning off UAC before installing the ATI drivers. After the drivers are installed, then turn UAC back on.
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#9 Post by sojourner » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:05 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Try turning off UAC before installing the ATI drivers. After the drivers are installed, then turn UAC back on.
Thought about that but UAC is already turned off!

Any other ideas why it won't install?
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#10 Post by lifrancis » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:36 pm

Latest development:
I downloaded a free program "DriverMax" (one of those that put a lot of limitations on the free version user in order to get you to pay up for the pro version). Using it, I located and downloaded version 8.241.0.0 of the ATI driver. So far, it seems to work fine on Win 7 (no problem with Google Earth).

Benchmark results with Wintune 98:
Video(2D) 49.34938 MPixels/s
Direct3D 309.9113 MPixels/s
OpenGL 153.0649 MPixels/s
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#11 Post by sojourner » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:49 am

lifrancis wrote:I located and downloaded version 8.241.0.0 of the ATI driver. So far, it seems to work fine on Win 7 (no problem with Google Earth).
Can you post a link to the SW?
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#12 Post by plympton » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:46 pm

Bump for download link to driver please!

Thanks!
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#13 Post by nickleics » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:52 am

Thank you all for your help with this issue. I have followed all of the links provided, and would like to share with you my feedback. Please note that I have an X31 running Windows 7 RC.

What I started with

Download location: Windows 7 RC installation
Driver reported as: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
Stability: Poor. Required modification of settings in "Troubleshoot" tab to be two notches from the left (i.e. disable all DirectDraw and Direct3D) to avoid BSOD errors.
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7deClndzQw
In SD: ok, a little choppy
In HD: very choppy
Windows Experience Index: "Graphics" and "Gaming graphics" both 1.0

Option 1: the Harryc version

Download location: http://mysite.verizon.net/hjc56/files/ati_7500.zip
Driver reported as: ATI Mobility Radeon7500 (Microsoft Corporation - XDDM)
Driver version: 6.14.10.6606 (15.Aug.06)
Stability: Good. No requirement to use "Troubleshoot" tab.
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7deClndzQw
In SD: very smooth, no glitches
In HD: a little choppy throughout
Windows Experience Index: Does not complete

Option 2: the sojourner version

Download location: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-41918
Driver reported as: ATI Mobility Radeon
Driver version: 6.14.10.6547 (6.Feb.07)
Stability: Good. No requirement to use "Troubleshoot" tab.
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7deClndzQw
In SD: quite smooth, some glitches
In HD: a little choppy throughout
Windows Experience Index: Does not complete

Option 3: the lifrancis version
Note: I did not have the direct link to the lifrancis version, but I found it (I think) on CNET. This may not be the exact version that he used.

Download location: http://download.cnet.com/ATI-Mobility-R ... 31442.html
Driver reported as: ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
Driver version: 8.241.0.0 (21.Mar.06)
Stability: Good. No requirement to use "Troubleshoot" tab.
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7deClndzQw
In SD: quite smooth, some glitches
In HD: a little choppy throughout
Windows Experience Index: Does not complete

Summary
  • The Radeon 7500 drivers supplied with Windows 7 were not stable
  • The "Harryc" drivers performed well and provided best performance
  • The "sojourner" drivers produced a disappointing performance
  • The "lifrancies" drivers were clearly for another card but produced performance comparable with the "Harryc" drivers
  • Best bet: Option 1 (the "Harryc" drivers) above
Hope this helps someone.

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Re: WiPndows 7 RC ATI 7500 Driver for Older Thinkpads

#14 Post by marYn » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:16 pm

Could somebody upload Harryc version drivers (or some other suitable for video playback in Win7 on X31? It can't be downloaded from the link above.

Thanks in advance.
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#16 Post by nickleics » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:00 am

I've tried the DNA drivers, but found them not to be so great (others may have better experiences).

The link to the harryc drivers no longer works, but I've re-uploaded them here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B0GIOPRK

I still think these are the best drivers, in terms of performance.

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#17 Post by marYn » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:47 am

Thank you all!

Meanwhile I've tried to install XP drivers :) and it works fine. Video playback is smooth and even old CounterStrike was running fine..

I'll download uploaded drivers anyway because you never know when it comes handy. Thanks again!
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#18 Post by helpme_1 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:34 am

nickleics wrote:I've tried the DNA drivers, but found them not to be so great (others may have better experiences).

The link to the harryc drivers no longer works, but I've re-uploaded them here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B0GIOPRK

I still think these are the best drivers, in terms of performance.

Thanks for sharing your experience of different drives with win 7. Amoung them, do you find any of them allow the use of Aero effect on win 7?

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#19 Post by nickleics » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:45 am

helpme_1 wrote:Thanks for sharing your experience of different drives with win 7. Amoung them, do you find any of them allow the use of Aero effect on win 7?
No. This is definitely not possible. Sorry.

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#20 Post by T400plus » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:03 am

I got the drivers from the other site mentioned....Thanks..


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#21 Post by Michelle » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:43 am

I recently installed Windows 7 RC and am using an Radeon X700 AGP card and found a way to get the card to work. I don't have full capabilities, (like AGP acceleration or fast write or Smartgart) but the screen is not boggy and slow anymore. The main reason for that, I believe is due to insufficient drivers for my motherboard for this version of windows, so I cannot use it to it's full potential. I'm not sure if it would be the same for each card, but I can't imagine it being much different. Here is how to get yours to work.

1. Download the latest drivers for XP for your card and run it in XP SP3 compatibility mode. Install everything and restart the computer to make sure everything on that end is settled in. You should now have a folder in C:\ATI\Support for the version of Catalyst you installed. We'll call this folder "X".

2. Go to your device manager. Your Radeon should still be sticking out like a sore thumb. Right click and select "Update driver software".

3. Select "Browse my computer for driver software", then "Let me pick...", then "Have disk", then "Browse"

4. Go to "C:\ATI\Support\X\Driver\Driver\XP_Inf" and it should find the .inf file (at least with mine it did, but it was version 8.12 of Catalyst). Click "open", then "ok" and then select your card on the next screen. Proceed through the rest of the installation procedures, and restart.

5. Enjoy!

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#22 Post by T400plus » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:07 am

Harry's version works for me.
The problem is that with w7 updates done the hibernate featre on T41 ...is not working anymore.
It starts saving to the hard disk but after some time hoots at me and is back to where i gave the hibernate command.! .Sleepworksproperly.

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#23 Post by D-XX » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:55 am

I know it has been a long time, but could somebody re-upload that harryc driver for WIN7 that seemed to work well. I'll upgrade T41 laptop to Win7 and I need the best possible video/display drivers for ATI 7500. Thanks in advance!

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#24 Post by GACrabill » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:42 pm

D-XX wrote:I know it has been a long time, but could somebody re-upload that harryc driver for WIN7 that seemed to work well. I'll upgrade T41 laptop to Win7 and I need the best possible video/display drivers for ATI 7500. Thanks in advance!
The "one that works" with Win7 T40-T42 models with ATI 7500 or ATI 9000 graphics chips is "6.14.10.6606".

Try this one :
http://www.mediafire.com/?5tieomimroy#!

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#25 Post by s07h » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:30 am

GACrabill wrote:
D-XX wrote:I know it has been a long time, but could somebody re-upload that harryc driver for WIN7 that seemed to work well. I'll upgrade T41 laptop to Win7 and I need the best possible video/display drivers for ATI 7500. Thanks in advance!
The "one that works" with Win7 T40-T42 models with ATI 7500 or ATI 9000 graphics chips is "6.14.10.6606".

Try this one :
http://www.mediafire.com/?5tieomimroy#!

Hi, Any chance you could re-upload the harryc driver?
Thanks

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#26 Post by GACrabill » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:25 pm

s07h wrote:
GACrabill wrote: The "one that works" with Win7 T40-T42 models with ATI 7500 or ATI 9000 graphics chips is "6.14.10.6606".

Try this one :
http://www.mediafire.com/?5tieomimroy#!
Hi, Any chance you could re-upload the harryc driver?
Thanks
You can try this one (use the 2nd 'download' icon - in the center of the screen) :
http://www.magicdriver.com/driver133572 ... .6606.html

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#27 Post by vladantd » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:08 pm

Hello, i have installed tiny 7 (a light windows 7) on my t40 and i tried a bunch of drivers for the 7500, but none worked good, right now in adapters it says that the display driver is 7500c and has a yellow exclamation mark but its like there is no driver, cant watch videos. I had some driver, i think its the one right before .6606 but whenever i tried to play a vidro in dlc i got a bsod, i looked for the .6606 driver everywhere but couldnt find a working link, only link thar was working was from drivermax but the darn thing says the driver is not for my hardware...

Could anyone please reupload the .6606 driver or a driver that works because im starting university soon and its the only laptop i got, and i would really like to avoid going back to xp. Thanks in advance <3

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#28 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:21 pm

Have you checked the Drivers link at the top of this page?

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#29 Post by vladantd » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:58 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:21 pm
Have you checked the Drivers link at the top of this page?
I've tried all links i found on this thread and many other threads, but all links are dead, the only link that worked for me is from the reply right above my first reply, but that one doesnt have any .exe installers and i dont know how to install it (if its even possible). I was hoping someone still active had the harryc's driver and could upload it again :/

EDIT:

Okay, i got a driver working okay by installing it using the inif, the version of the driver is 6.14.10.6607. When i play videos in vlc i dont get a bsod anymore which is good, but i still want to do some testing on some old games that i've played on xp to see if they will work, i will edit this post again later.

EDIT 2:

Alright, so i've tested out World of Warcraft vanilla (which was with the other drivers that i tried giving me an error to install directx or to update my drivers) and it works amazing, it even bumped up the settings to medium when i first started it, which is a good sign in my book. I dont know where i downloaded the driver from and if this is a modded driver, id still like to get the harryc's driver that everyone said was working great just to test which is better.

But for those who cant find any driver for windows 7, i uploaded this one to mediafire, have in mind, my laptop is IBM ThinkPad T40 and has the ati mobile 7500 card. The way you install the driver is the same as harryc explained at the top of this page, just extract this zip, then in device manager update driver, browse from computer, let me pick from a list, then click 'have disk..' and just select the .inf file and select your gpu (in my case it was "ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500 (Microsoft Corporation - XDDM)") and just 'next' and restart your pc and it should work.

6.14.10.6607 driver link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/anysv59l23awxs9/6607.rar
(saying again, i dont know if this is a modded driver or not, and its not by me, so use at your own risk)

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