T series with sonoma, any ETA?

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risolutore · #1 Post by **risolutore** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:15 am

E.T.A. I don't want to be [censored] off by Asus, or by Dell that have the new 802 N Wireless, and new Audio 7.1 and 533Mhz Bus, and maybe 128 RAM on PCI express. I don't want to be on the OLD side with my favourite IBM thinkPAd.
HELP, let's suggest IBM of our needs and try to make new model avaiable on store...

stgreek · #2 Post by **stgreek** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:28 am

risolutore wrote:E.T.A. I don't want to be [censored] off by Asus, or by Dell that have the new 802 N Wireless, and new Audio 7.1 and 533Mhz Bus, and maybe 128 RAM on PCI express. I don't want to be on the OLD side with my favourite IBM thinkPAd.
HELP, let's suggest IBM of our needs and try to make new model avaiable on store...

IBM was never cutting-edge performance, rather they used tested and RELIABLE hardware. Therefore I don't care if Dell users have new toys, since they will most likely have to send them for repair any time soon, and Dell support is Hell support.

I will personally just sit back and wait for IBM, I usually trust their judgement on such stuff...

dvorak · #3 Post by **dvorak** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:52 am

As others have said before, IBM does not produce laptops with bleeding-edge hardware, they are more focused on stability, usability, fitness and service.
I, to be honest, don't even suggest one to try and get the most powerful laptop, it'll be old the next day, as technology advances so fast that before you get home with your new computer, something better has been invented. Regarding a laptop you should definitely put useability, weight, toughness and service on the same pole as raw processing power-- the more secure you'll feel with it, the better you'll perform.
And it's always good to remember that it's not the laptop that brings knowledge or wisdom, it's simply a tool, you must do the work.

Leon · #4 Post by **Leon** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:11 am

well put, sir!

Nomad-Man · #5 Post by **Nomad-Man** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:32 am

I, to be honest, don't even suggest one to try and get the most powerful laptop, it'll be old the next day, as technology advances so fast that before you get home with your new computer, something better has been invented.

I agree, I dont think the latest and greatest is going to make you do your work any better. However im wondering if buying a 3 or 4 year old 7500 graphics card is a smart move at this point with longhorn just around the corner. Wonder if they will drop the 7500 eventually and make the 9000 the low end card.

dvorak · #6 Post by **dvorak** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:00 pm

I myself recently bought a Thinkpad with M-Radeon 9600, got a good deal on it in my country, and I consider it to be totally future compatible.
Although it does have half the memory of FireGL it has little effect in everything else other than games, and that's not what the thinkpad is made for anyways.
I'd suggest that you'd buy a Thinkpad with this card too, it's Dx9 compatible and is definitely powerful enough for Longhorn.

risolutore · #7 Post by **risolutore** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:50 am

Sonoma was planned in the past year, so doesn't stand for cutting edge.
IBM we alla know are the best, but are also mostaq expensive, and how do you feel when you see on the top shelf an ASUS 1,8 with Sonoma at 1500€? and you spent 2000€ for a dothan 1,8?
I start to cry...
IBM wheare are you? Do you want other to pay for develop and only then come out with your stable product?
Do you live on other insuccess?
Any IBM developer o this Board?

dvorak · #8 Post by **dvorak** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:18 am

IBM's most valuable resource is its warranty service, it's fast, it's reliable, it's meant to serve the customer.
I don't know any companies dealing with laptops that care this much for their clients, IBM is towards the business-user, one that doesn't have a week for a small problem to be fixed, you call, they order, you go there, get it changed in 30 minutes and are again on the move.
Regarding Sonoma, it really is not much of an upgrade, you'll get a couple of megabytes more bandwidth and some extra processor cycles, definitely not much of an advantage, and that only appears in the form of a few more frames-per-second in your latest 3dgame.

stgreek · #9 Post by **stgreek** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:16 am

risolutore wrote:Sonoma was planned in the past year, so doesn't stand for cutting edge.
IBM we alla know are the best, but are also mostaq expensive, and how do you feel when you see on the top shelf an ASUS 1,8 with Sonoma at 1500€? and you spent 2000€ for a dothan 1,8?
I start to cry...
IBM wheare are you? Do you want other to pay for develop and only then come out with your stable product?
Do you live on other insuccess?
Any IBM developer o this Board?

Then why don't you get the Asus? We all know that the extra speed has little to no use to 99.9% of the people, while usability applies to everyone. Let's not forget that a huge amount of users are still running P2s and P3s PERFECTLY FINE, without speed or other complaints. Therefore, if you are a tweaker tha likes to pay ridiculous amounts of money to get an extra frame at you FPS go for Asus/Alienware/some other random company. If you want something that works no matter what, get an IBM. It is as simple as that.

Roisin · #10 Post by **Roisin** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:22 am

Steve007 · #11 Post by **Steve007** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:25 am

Roisin wrote:Amen

Yes, it appears that 'risolutore' doesn't understand the ThinkPad concept

Leon · #12 Post by **Leon** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:37 am

We are passionate about our Thinkpads, but risolutore is just expressing his opinion. Let's be careful not to become SO passionate that we can't listen to the opinion of others......

stgreek · #13 Post by **stgreek** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:18 am

Leon wrote:We are passionate about our Thinkpads, but risolutore is just expressing his opinion. Let's be careful not to become SO passionate that we can't listen to the opinion of others......

I'm all for expressing opinions different to mine, since I have something to argue with. However the OP is obvioulsy trying to bash thinkpads, something also known as flamebait. See the first post and give me one proper argument for his/her opinion, and I will humbly apologize. "Being [censored] off by Asus users" is not in that category. For a more constructive thread type see the widescreen thread, where people actually back up their ideas for or against WS Thinkpads. Oh, and if Sonoma is "old", how come 99.9% of laptops DON'T have it?

PS
Leon, sorry if I sound rude towards you or anyone, however reading bashes like that on a Thinkpad forum "pisses me off"

Leon · #14 Post by **Leon** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:58 am

No rudeness felt!

..... I was only implying that maybe it was just the original posters choice of words, and what you perceived as "flame bait" might have been unintentional. And, if it was, I personally choose not to bite. But, you too are entitled to your opinion, and I appreciate your posts and contribution to this forum.

T series with sonoma, any ETA?

T series with sonoma, any ETA?

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