FYI IBM is OUT of X40 and X41 drives.

[TTA]

I just got off the phone with easyserve about my dead X41t drive and he said even the sub parts were out of stock. He said I'd get a call in a few days or an email with a staus update. I told him it was cool just send me an X300
Dang I hope I'm not SOL like the guys with the IPS screens.

[ajkula66]

TTA wrote:

Dang I hope I'm not SOL like the guys with the IPS screens.

I honestly wouldn't say that I know anyone who was SOL with IPS LCDs. They get replaced all the time...at least mine do...knock wood...

Now these unfortunate 1.8" drives...that really was just the matter of time...

Good luck...

[TTA]

I thought I read the flexviews were gone, did they get more?
I sold my last flexview TP a few months ago (well I still have some new in box spares)
maybe it's time to update my sig

[sjthinkpader]

TTA....
Now these unfortunate 1.8" drives...that really was just the matter of time...

Good luck...

No worse than 2.5 inch PATA. I don't see much limitations yet...
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 1&start=30

[ajkula66]

sjthinkpader wrote:

No worse than 2.5 inch PATA. I don't see much limitations yet...
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 1&start=30

What I was referring to was the availability factor, not the performance per se.

AFAIK, IBM hasn't ran out of standard 2.5" PATA drives yet, since I've just received a replacement drive for my T43p...with no strings pulled...

[astroidea]

If anyone wants my 40GB from my X41T, it's yours. I want SSD!

[sjthinkpader]

sjthinkpader...

What I was referring to was the availability factor, not the performance per se.

...

I was refering to availability also. You can see the amount of different versions I was able to acquire and test. Many were made this year. Even that 120GB Samsung was widely available.

[ajkula66]

Although you are to be congratulated for the amazing research performed and documented in the referenced thread, we're talking about two different aspects of the term "availability"...

Most of the drives you've tested need some type of adapter, or belong to a different technology altogether.

My reference was to original drives, or exact replacements needing no adjustments of any kind. Availability of these is poor in my opinion.

While experimenting is great for one's own use and knowledge base, selling a modded X4x (or almost any machine, for that fact) is a PITA and then some. Buyers want original components 99.9% of the time and could care less that the SSD will blow the original drive away in a split second.

That's why the availability of original/compatible drives is an important issue.

That's why I personally run away from X4x series when mentioned in any type of a business proposal unless the HD is included. And even then I think five times before saying anything...

I do hope that we fully understand each other's position at this point.

[sjthinkpader]

Sure, my crop of X4x are for personal use and only selling those taken out of service. I am here to help those X4x owners and not to discourage them. People here are enjoying them partially due to lower cost of those reasons you cited. I venture to guess majority are owners like myself rather than sellers.

[ajkula66]

sjthinkpader wrote:

I venture to guess majority are owners like myself rather than sellers.

And you're likely correct. However...

Most of the owners become sellers of the given item at some point in time.

Forum members who own a X4x unit (or any ThinkPad for that fact) represent just a very small percentile of the total number of X4x owners/users/potential owners. To them, your research and advice is invaluable. Seriously.

There are many others out there who'd be extremely happy just to replace an aging original drive with the same or similar one, with no experimenting or adjusting. Now, these are people who were left out in the cold by IBM/Lenovo/Hitachi...etc. And the availability of such drives is a huge problem for these individuals.

I'm not out to discourage anyone, just to point out the less-than-bright sides associated with an ownership of a particular item. And the balance of dollars and cents vs. performance in the total equation, that's all.

[sjthinkpader]

This is a X40, X41 topic. So people here are interested in solutions to their problems. I am not quite sure what value you are bring here. Who said: " if you have nothing good to say, don't say it at all..."?

[ajkula66]

sjthinkpader wrote:

So people here are interested in solutions to their problems. I am not quite sure what value you are bring here. Who said: " if you have nothing good to say, don't say it at all...

Well, let's see...this particular topic was about IBM being out of the 1.8" drives, right?

What's good about that? Or about the fact that sealed original drives are changing hands for $100 or thereabouts? When a hard drive gets to the point of being 40-50% of the laptop's value, it's time to move on...

Your research is one side of the coin that one would toss for making an informed decision. My pessimism is the other.

If we were to talk exclusively about good things, half of the threads on this forum wouldn't exist to begin with...

[sjthinkpader]

So you have no solution. In that case null is null, no information.

[ajkula66]

sjthinkpader wrote:

So you have no solution. In that case null is null, no information.

The solution that I normally suggest to my customers interested in a small ThinkPad is to move on to X6x series which has become quite affordable, and offers better overall performance along with upgrades that are easy to understand and obtain.

It's not my fault that IBM designed X4x series in the manner they had, and that these machines got the reputation they did because of 1.8" drives (amongst other things) and can now be had for ridiculously small amount of money as a result of the given reputation.

You've got an impressive spectrum of solutions. Great. For an average user, a little bit too late. That doesn't diminish the scientific value of your work whatsoever.

By the time you max out the X4x with a proper-size SSD drive, you've come extremely close to the X6x price range, unless you got the laptop for free to begin with. And a low-end X60 will blow away any X4x, SSD or not, in most applications any day of the week.

In my book, that's a good enough reason to move on. That is my solution.

On a more general note, in hopes of finally getting to some type of closure regarding the issues discussed above, what is an acceptable solution for myself is not necessarily what I would advise another user. The amount of money that I've spent on my "main" A31p could buy a T60, but I'm OK with that, for reasons of my own. If someone else wanted to replicate the experience, I would advise them to get a T60 instead. It's that simple.

I rest my case.

[sjthinkpader]

I am just simply tire of hearing these "give up you X4x and get a X6x" on these X4x posts. We are here because we have a X4x, for better or worst, and they work fine.

[TTA]

I am just simply tire of hearing these "give up you X4x and get a X6x" on these X4x posts. We are here because we have a X4x, for better or worst, and they work fine.

I"ll be honest I like x32's better than X40's and I even sold my X60 since my X32 still had better battery life (and just an all around better 'feel' to it but that's not the point of this thread.
I dropped my 2GHz X32 cracking the screen and dong lots of damage to it so I was forced to pull out an X41 I had been procrastinating on fixing and well it does indeed look like IBM is out of the 1.8 drives since this morning UPS dropped off a 41W0736 60GB SSD as a replacement
Now the question is do I have an SSD for sale, does it go into my T61p or do I actually put this thing in my X41...
I think I may just have an X41 with no HDD for sale

[sjthinkpader]

Can't tell you what to do with your X41 but that 60GB SSD is worth as much as the computer.

Actually, we use T6x and X6x for the office. They use SATA drives.

I have a X32 too and the top assembly to repair the LCD is pretty cheap today. The X30 is very low power but the X32 is about on par with X41.

Here is a power comparison chart.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... ng#p512241

[TTA]

Can't tell you what to do with your X41 but that 60GB SSD is worth as much as the computer.

Actually, we use T6x and X6x for the office. They use SATA drives.

I have a X32 too and the top assembly to repair the LCD is pretty cheap today. The X30 is very low power but the X32 is about on par with X41.

Here is a power comparison chart.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... ng#p512241

Thanks, I really didn't think things through since I was pretty geeked when I saw an SSD showed up

[sjthinkpader]

Yes, I am pretty envious since I don't have a 60GB SSD yet. My X41t warranty expired so my chance to get one of these is gone.

Nevertheless I now have many 1.8/2.5 inch 32GB SSDs. They were acquired between $40-$110 so SSDs are getting cheaper.

[TTA]

Yes, I am pretty envious since I don't have a 60GB SSD yet. My X41t warranty expired so my chance to get one of these is gone.

Nevertheless I now have many 1.8/2.5 inch 32GB SSDs. They were acquired between $40-$110 so SSDs are getting cheaper.

I bought one of these assuming my warrenty was up http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0468768288
then on a lark I checked my warranty status and found out it had an on site 5 year upgrade LOL gotta love buying used stuff on eBay sometimes