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Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#1 Post by wayneforrest » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:07 pm

Hello,

I recently installed Windows 7 (Release) and installed the Latest PowerManager, but ever since the install the T60 is running much hotter than
before. The T60 positioned on my lap is not pleasant at all, actually burning my lap.

Things I have tried:

1) Upgraded the Bios. (Set the BIOS to Defaults)

2) Replaced the Microsoft supplied Video Driver( ATI X1400) with the one posted at Lenovo.
Tried an older ATI Driver since the Latest one at Lenovo does not include or does not install the "PowerPlay" (CCC).

3) I have created my own powerplan and set the plan such that the "Temperature" is die lowest.

I am actually wondering if there is a download for an Older PowerManger, the one with the "Thinkpad Default" power plan.

Any help welcome.
T60 HDG 8744 - XP
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#2 Post by Harryc » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm

Install and run coretemp and post your idle CPU temperatures and idle CPU load percentage.
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#3 Post by krauser » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:49 am

You can also use RightMark CPU Clock Utility (RMClock) and turn down the speed of the CPU.

http://cpu.rightmark.org/download.shtml

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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#4 Post by wayneforrest » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:50 am

Thank you for the help thus far, here is my coredump .txt file
---GUT---
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Core Temp version 0.99.5.27 - 32bit
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Number of processors: 1
Number of cores: 2
Number of threads: 2

Processor information:
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Processor 0
Package 0
Cores: 2 (Max 2)
Threads: 2 (Max 2)
Processor name: Mobile Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (Merom)
Processor name string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
Platform: Socket M (479-pin) (PlatformID: 0x5)
Processor signature: 0x6F6
Processor revision: B2
Process node: 65 nm

Processor speed: 1994.91MHz (166.24 x 12.0)
Bus speed: 664.97MHz
Bus ratio: x4
Default speed: 2000.00MHz
Multiplier range: x6.0 - x12.0
Maximum voltage: 1.2500V
Instruction set: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
Feature set: VT, XD, EIST
L1 data cache: 2 x 32 KiB, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size - 1 thread(s)
L1 instruction cache: 2 x 32 KiB, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size - 1 thread(s)
L2 cache: 4096 KiB, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size - 2 thread(s)

Register information:
---------------------------------------------------

APIC ID: 0
Processor topology: Package ID: 0, Core ID: 0, Thread ID: 0

Standard functions eax ebx ecx edx
0x00000000 0x0000000A 0x756E6547 0x6C65746E 0x49656E69
0x00000001 0x000006F6 0x00020800 0x0000E3BD 0xBFEBFBFF
0x00000002 0x05B0B101 0x005657F0 0x00000000 0x2CB43049
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x04000121 0x01C0003F 0x0000003F 0x00000001
0x00000004 0x04000122 0x01C0003F 0x0000003F 0x00000001
0x00000004 0x04004143 0x03C0003F 0x00000FFF 0x00000001
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000003 0x00022220
0x00000006 0x00000001 0x00000002 0x00000001 0x00000000
0x00000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000008 0x00000400 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x0000000A 0x07280202 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

Extended functions eax ebx ecx edx
0x80000000 0x80000008 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x20100000
0x80000002 0x65746E49 0x2952286C 0x726F4320 0x4D542865
0x80000003 0x43203229 0x20205550 0x20202020 0x54202020
0x80000004 0x30303237 0x20402020 0x30302E32 0x007A4847
0x80000005 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000006 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x10008040 0x00000000
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000008 0x00003024 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR address edx eax
0x00000017 0x00140000 0x98548C2B
0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00900
0x0000002A 0x00000000 0x43080000
0x0000008B 0x000000C7 0x00000000
0x000000E8 0x00000000 0x01D15964
0x000000CE 0x00130C2B 0x3B530613
0x000000EE 0x00000000 0x80B90400
0x00000198 0x06130C2B 0x06000C2B
0x00000199 0x00000000 0x00000C2B
0x0000019C 0x00000000 0x88330100
0x000001A0 0x00000043 0x64972489
0x000001A2 0x00000000 0x00000000

APIC ID: 1
Processor topology: Package ID: 0, Core ID: 1, Thread ID: 0

Standard functions eax ebx ecx edx
0x00000000 0x0000000A 0x756E6547 0x6C65746E 0x49656E69
0x00000001 0x000006F6 0x01020800 0x0000E3BD 0xBFEBFBFF
0x00000002 0x05B0B101 0x005657F0 0x00000000 0x2CB43049
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x04000121 0x01C0003F 0x0000003F 0x00000001
0x00000004 0x04000122 0x01C0003F 0x0000003F 0x00000001
0x00000004 0x04004143 0x03C0003F 0x00000FFF 0x00000001
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000003 0x00022220
0x00000006 0x00000001 0x00000002 0x00000001 0x00000000
0x00000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000008 0x00000400 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x0000000A 0x07280202 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

Extended functions eax ebx ecx edx
0x80000000 0x80000008 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x20100000
0x80000002 0x65746E49 0x2952286C 0x726F4320 0x4D542865
0x80000003 0x43203229 0x20205550 0x20202020 0x54202020
0x80000004 0x30303237 0x20402020 0x30302E32 0x007A4847
0x80000005 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000006 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x10008040 0x00000000
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000008 0x00003024 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR address edx eax
0x00000017 0x00140000 0x98548C2B
0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00800
0x0000002A 0x00000000 0x43080000
0x0000008B 0x000000C7 0x00000000
0x000000E8 0x00000000 0x022F607A
0x000000CE 0x00130C2B 0x3B530613
0x000000EE 0x00000000 0x80B90400
0x00000198 0x06130C2B 0x06000C2B
0x00000199 0x00000000 0x00000C2B
0x0000019C 0x00000000 0x88330100
0x000001A0 0x00000043 0x64972489
0x000001A2 0x00000000 0x00000000


PCI Register dump:
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Device: Host to PCI bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x00, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27A0
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0003
Sub System Device ID: 0x2015
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 A0 27 06 01 90 20 03 00 00 06 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA 17 15 20
30 00 00 00 00 E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40 01 90 D1 FE 01 40 D1 FE 05 00 00 F0 01 80 D1 FE
50 00 00 02 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 10 11 11 01 30 11 11 00 FF 03 00 00 C0 1A 39 00
A0 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 01 00 00
E0 09 00 09 51 4A 00 4A B0 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 05 00 10 00 00 00

Device: PCI to PCI bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x01, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27A1
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0004
Revision ID: 0x0003
Sub System Device ID: 0x0000
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x0000

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 A1 27 07 05 10 00 03 00 04 06 10 00 01 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 00 20 20 00 00
20 10 EE 10 EE 01 D8 F1 DF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 88 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 1C 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02
80 01 90 02 C8 00 00 00 00 0D 80 00 00 AA 17 14 20
90 05 A0 01 00 0C 30 E0 FE B0 49 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 10 00 41 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 4D 01 02
B0 03 00 01 11 80 25 08 00 C0 01 48 00 08 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 01 0F 00 00 00 00 86 0F 05 00 00 00 00 80

Device: HD Audio device

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1B, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27D8
Class Code ID: 0x0004
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0003
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x2010
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 D8 27 06 01 10 00 02 00 03 04 10 00 00 00
10 04 00 40 EE 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA 17 10 20
30 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 11 02 00 00
40 03 00 00 03 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00
50 01 60 42 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 05 70 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 10 00 91 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: PCI to PCI bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1C, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27D0
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0004
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x0000
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x0000

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 D0 27 07 05 10 00 02 00 04 06 10 00 81 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 02 00 30 30 00 00
20 00 EE 00 EE F1 FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 04 00
40 10 80 41 01 C0 0F 00 00 00 00 11 00 11 2C 11 01
50 42 00 11 30 E0 A0 10 00 3A 10 40 00 08 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 05 90 01 00 0C 30 E0 FE A0 49 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 0D A0 00 00 AA 17 11 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 01 00 02 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 11 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 0F C7 00 06 07 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: PCI to PCI bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1C, Function #: 0x01
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27D2
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0004
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x0000
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x0000

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 D2 27 07 05 10 00 02 00 04 06 10 00 81 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 03 00 40 50 00 00
20 00 EC F0 ED 01 E4 01 E4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 04 00
40 10 80 41 01 C0 0F 00 00 00 00 11 00 11 2C 11 02
50 42 00 11 30 E0 A0 18 00 3A 10 40 00 08 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 05 90 01 00 0C 30 E0 FE 90 49 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 0D A0 00 00 AA 17 11 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 01 00 02 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 11 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 0F C7 00 06 07 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: PCI to PCI bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1C, Function #: 0x02
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27D4
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0004
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x0000
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x0000

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 D4 27 07 05 10 00 02 00 04 06 10 00 81 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 0B 00 60 70 00 20
20 00 E8 F0 E9 11 E4 11 E4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 04 00
40 10 80 41 01 C0 0F 00 00 00 00 10 00 11 4C 11 03
50 00 00 01 10 E0 A0 20 00 3A 10 00 00 08 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 05 90 01 00 0C 30 E0 FE 80 49 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 0D A0 00 00 AA 17 11 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 01 00 02 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 11 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 C7 00 06 07 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: PCI to PCI bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1C, Function #: 0x03
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27D6
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0004
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x0000
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x0000

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 D6 27 07 05 10 00 02 00 04 06 10 00 81 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 13 00 80 90 00 20
20 00 EA F0 EB 21 E4 21 E4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 04 00
40 10 80 41 01 C0 0F 00 00 00 00 10 00 11 4C 11 04
50 00 00 01 10 E0 A0 28 00 3A 10 00 00 08 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 05 90 01 00 0C 30 E0 FE 70 49 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 0D A0 00 00 AA 17 11 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 01 00 02 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 11 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 C7 00 06 07 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: USB (Universal Serial Bus) controller

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1D, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27C8
Class Code ID: 0x000C
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0003
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x200A
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 C8 27 05 00 80 02 02 00 03 0C 00 00 80 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA 17 0A 20
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 01 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 2F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: USB (Universal Serial Bus) controller

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1D, Function #: 0x01
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27C9
Class Code ID: 0x000C
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0003
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x200A
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 C9 27 05 00 80 02 02 00 03 0C 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 21 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA 17 0A 20
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 11 02 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 2F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: USB (Universal Serial Bus) controller

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1D, Function #: 0x02
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27CA
Class Code ID: 0x000C
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0003
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x200A
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 CA 27 05 00 80 02 02 00 03 0C 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 41 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA 17 0A 20
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 12 03 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 2F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: USB (Universal Serial Bus) controller

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1D, Function #: 0x03
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27CB
Class Code ID: 0x000C
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0003
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x200A
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 CB 27 05 00 80 02 02 00 03 0C 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 61 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA 17 0A 20
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 04 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 2F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: USB (Universal Serial Bus) controller

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1D, Function #: 0x07
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27CC
Class Code ID: 0x000C
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0003
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x200B
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 CC 27 06 01 90 02 02 20 03 0C 00 00 00 00
10 00 40 40 EE 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AA 17 0B 20
30 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 04 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 01 58 C2 C9 00 00 00 00 0A 00 A0 20 00 00 00 00
60 20 20 9F 01 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0
70 00 00 D7 3F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 AA FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 20 00 00 88
E0 00 00 00 00 DB B6 6D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 80 00 09 88 85 40 00 86 0F 02 00 06 17 02 20

Device: PCI to PCI bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1E, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x2448
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0004
Revision ID: 0x00E2
Sub System Device ID: 0x0000
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x0000

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 48 24 07 00 10 00 E2 01 04 06 00 00 01 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 15 18 20 A0 D0 80 22
20 80 FE B0 FE 41 FE 71 FE 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 12 00 00
50 0D 00 00 00 AA 17 13 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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Device: PCI to ISA bridge

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1F, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27B9
Class Code ID: 0x0006
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0001
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x2009
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

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E0 09 00 0C 10 B4 02 24 17 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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Device: IDE controller

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1F, Function #: 0x02
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27C4
Class Code ID: 0x0001
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0001
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x200E
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
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E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: SMBus controller

Bus #: 0x00, Device #: 0x1F, Function #: 0x03
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x27DA
Class Code ID: 0x000C
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0005
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x200F
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
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E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 0F 02 00 00 00 00 00

Device: VGA display controller

Bus #: 0x01, Device #: 0x00, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x7145
Class Code ID: 0x0003
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Sub System Device ID: 0x2006
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
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Device: Ethernet controller

Bus #: 0x02, Device #: 0x00, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x109A
Class Code ID: 0x0002
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Sub System Device ID: 0x2001
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x17AA

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
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F0 42 01 11 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Device: Network controller

Bus #: 0x03, Device #: 0x00, Function #: 0x00
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x4227
Class Code ID: 0x0002
Sub Class Code ID: 0x0080
Revision ID: 0x0002
Sub System Device ID: 0x1011
Sub System Vendor ID: 0x8086

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E0 10 00 11 00 C0 0E 00 00 17 00 01 00 11 1C 07 00
F0 42 01 11 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#5 Post by Harryc » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:00 pm

You posted a lot of information, none of it is what I asked for :).
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#6 Post by wayneforrest » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:34 pm

:)

Sorry, my mistake:
Core 0 47 low 48 High
Core 1 45 low 47 High

I have also pinned it down a bit, it is not W7 since i tried XP (separate drive) and it also runs hot.
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#7 Post by Harryc » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:44 pm

Ok, in coretemp towards the bottom is a box called 'Load' , What percentage is listed for each core? By the way, the CPU temps are normal. In fact the T60 I am typing this on (running Windows 7) has almost identical temperatures to yours.
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#8 Post by wayneforrest » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:00 pm

Core 1 Low 46 High 50 Load 6 to 16 (jumping)
Core 2 Low 46 High 49 Load 5 to 11 (jumping)

Ok (that is with my browser open), if I close it, it drops to 2 / 4 % cpu usage.

I have felt the bottom of the T60, the hotest part is not the cpu, but in the center of the laptop, more towards the cpu.
Could it be the GPU.

need a core Temp for ATI X1400 I guess.
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#9 Post by Harryc » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:09 pm

tpfancontrol will give you a GPU temp on that machine.
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#10 Post by wayneforrest » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:43 pm

Thank you,
tpfancontrol shows the GPU temp...

I played a bit with ATI Catalyst Control Center, adjusting the powerplay to
Max Battery Life
Balanced and
Max Performance - 60 and climbing.
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#11 Post by LegendaryKA8 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:45 pm

58-65C is about where my X1400 idled, so if it's doing that on idle you shouldn't have much of a problem. ATI cards just run a bit hot in a T6x, especially if you have the T60p with the FireGL. Otherwise your idle temps are fine.

What I'm thinking is that maybe since you instaled Win 7 fresh, it is grabbing updates and doing its hardware indexing rigmarole? I have no experience with Win 7, but I notice that on a new Vista installation... the machine just works pretty hard for the first few days or so to do all the indexing/updating/etc that it does. I notice that resource utilization drops off after a while, once things 'settle down,' so to speak.
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#12 Post by bautista.ekonomista » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:22 pm

wayneforrest,

I was running Win7 RC1 until last week in my T61 (integrated GPU) and I've noticed that for many months having Win7 in my laptop, my T61 was running quite hot to the touch, especially the palmrest area (right side after the touchpad; the whole area under the palmrest right beneath the touchpad).

What I did was to fire up my recovery disks gathering dust for more than a year already and have a factory reinstall of Vista.

And it did wonders.

Surely, I miss the very-much improved GUI experience with Win7. But given its rather pricey treatment here in Manila, not to mention the heat it made my T61 generate, I'm more than happy to be back in Vista.

Perhaps I'll just get my Win7 back when I decide to buy a new ThinkPad again.

I hope you'll solve your problem anytime soon! Good luck! :)
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#13 Post by Feraturion » Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:32 pm

Here someone with the same problem.
I fried my cpu so i replaced it by a duo 2 core.

If I have info I will add it.

But you are not the only one.
I set power option in de bios to energy saver on battery and powercord.

And after installing a 64-bit version my heating problems are reduced a little.

Im now using my HP 6710b and alsoo that one is getting hot with windows 7.
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#14 Post by bautista.ekonomista » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:19 am

To the moderators,

Do you think the issue here is having an old TP with old parts in it?

I was thinking that maybe the TPs were hot like pancakes because of the old-generation parts that may not be "compatible" with running Windows 7. Though these laptops may run Win7 like any other brand new laptops, I feel that running Windows 7 without having any heat issues can only be achieved with newer-generation laptops.

What do you think?
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Re: Windows 7 and T60 Running Hot

#15 Post by wayneforrest » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:16 am

Some more info, my T60 is a bit cooler.

I have recently also upgraded my BIOS to the Latest version ( Windows 7 Computability ),

I have set the BIOS to Load Defaults, and notice that the Thermal Control is set to Maximum performance; I am not sure
what the correct value is or was. Maybe someone can help out here (one that has a Cold T60).

I did make the change to "Balanced" and set the IBM power Control slider one notch down.
I noticed that the Slider adjusts the ATI Catalyst Control Center Power Play.

When the IBM power manager slider is on Max, then ATI CCC sets the PowerPlay to Maximum,
By setting the Slider one notch down the Power Play setting is set to Balanced.

I am not sure if the Bios Thermal control plays a role, it is currently set to "Balanced".
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